Masatake, Brahma,

Hopefully I should be able to create Jira and PR in Bigtop. Will let you
know once ready for review. Thanks


On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 9:22 AM Masatake Iwasaki <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Please file a JIRA and submit a pull request if you want to show the code
> and get feedback.
> There is nothing I want to discuss off the record.
>
> On 2022/08/23 18:48, Battula, Brahma Reddy wrote:
> > @Masatake Iwasaki ,@Viraj Jasani , @Kengo Seki and others, can we get
> the final conclusion on this..?
> >
> > Please let me know your availability, Can have one call to discuss on
> this..
> >
> >
> > On 24/07/22, 1:31 AM, "Battula, Brahma Reddy" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >      >  -1 on development in branch.
> >       >   It is not worth for maintaining the branch if the modules is
> so small
> >        >  and barely updated as explained here.
> >        >  It should not conflict to existing code.
> >         >  I feel I must check the code before check-in based on this
> thread.
> >
> >
> >      Sure, Viraj or me can show the code to you.
> >
> >      Can we've call on this Friday/Thrusday if that works..?
> >
> >
> >      On 11/07/22, 11:54 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >          > Sure, we can havemodule name like  bigtop-distro-select.
> >          > Initially we'll do this separate branch.
> >
> >          -1 on development in branch.
> >          It is not worth for maintaining the branch if the modules is so
> small
> >          and barely updated as explained here.
> >          It should not conflict to existing code.
> >          I feel I must check the code before check-in based on this
> thread.
> >
> >          Masatake Iwasaki
> >
> >          On 2022/07/11 8:23, Kengo Seki wrote:
> >          >> As there are different opinions on this and took long time,
> just to brainstorm all the possibilities and pitfalls.
> >          >
> >          > Oh, I interpreted your words "conclude" and "finalize" as you
> were
> >          > going to make a final decision. Brainstorming is welcome, of
> course.
> >          > (But I'm not so sure if all people concerned could join, due
> to time
> >          > difference and their schedule, etc.)
> >          >
> >          >> Can you suggest, how the changes will be also.. like folder,
> where you suggest to keep this...?
> >          >
> >          > Sure, here's my proposal:
> >          >
> >          > * Stack name: "BIGTOP"
> >          >
> >          >    - The same name as the existing one [1]
> >          >    - Because it deploys the packages generated by Bigtop
> >          >    - The existing stack should be replaced with it, because
> that is
> >          > based on Bigtop 0.8 and too old to use now
> >          >    - No concern about infringing others' trademark
> >          >
> >          > * Component/folder name: "bigtop-select"
> >          >
> >          >    - Consistent naming convention with the existing tools
> such as
> >          > "bigtop-groovy", "bigtop-jsvc", "bigtop-utils" [2]
> >          >    - If it sounds too simple and a bit unclear, a more
> descriptive name
> >          > might be an option, for example "bigtop-ambari-stack-selector"
> >          >
> >          > * Script name: "bigtop-select"
> >          >
> >          >    - Consistent with the stack name
> >          >    - No concern about infringing others' trademark
> >          >
> >          > [1]:
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> >          > [2]:
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> >          >
> >          > Kengo Seki <[email protected]>
> >          >
> >          > On Mon, Jul 11, 2022 at 3:19 AM Battula, Brahma Reddy
> >          > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>
> >          >>>   Technical decisions shouldn't be done on other places
> than public mailing lists,
> >          >>>   as described in the "Open Communications" section of [1]
> and [2].
> >          >>   > So we should conclude the discussion in this mailing
> list.
> >          >>   > (And with my poor English, I'm not so confident to catch
> up with your
> >          >>    > fluent talk ;)
> >          >>
> >          >> I believe , I knew the apache way which you mentioned. We
> are not going conclude anything which comes to bigtop other than this
> mailing list.
> >          >> As there are different opinions on this and took long time,
> just to brainstorm all the possibilities and pitfalls. Hence  asking let's
> have  call so that we can brainstorm. Even after call, everything will be
> published what we discussed.
> >          >>
> >          >> I think, whiteboarding will help to catch up with you.
> >          >>
> >          >> You all the think "bigtop-select" will be best option
> right..? Can you suggest, how the changes will be also.. like folder, where
> you suggest to keep this...?
> >          >>
> >          >> And if the name represents the stack which we are going to
> deploy should fine I feel.. (if it's not BDP, may be
> OBDP:OpensourceBigDataPlatform.)
> >          >>
> >          >> @Viraj Jasani and others any thoughts..?
> >          >>
> >          >>
> >          >> On 10/07/22, 11:03 AM, "Kengo Seki" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >          >>
> >          >>      > Looks we had so much discussed here, Let's try to
> conclude. Can we've one call on this and finalize this..?
> >          >>
> >          >>      Technical decisions shouldn't be done on other places
> than public mailing lists,
> >          >>      as described in the "Open Communications" section of
> [1] and [2].
> >          >>      So we should conclude the discussion in this mailing
> list.
> >          >>      (And with my poor English, I'm not so confident to
> catch up with your
> >          >>      fluent talk ;)
> >          >>
> >          >>      > FYI. Even looks bigtop used some where also..
> >          >>
> >          >>      Bigtop is ASF's trademark as you can see in the "Apache
> Bigtop®
> >          >>      software" section of [3].
> >          >>      So it doesn't have the risk of trademark infringement.
> >          >>
> >          >>      [1]:
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> >          >>      [2]:
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> >          >>      [3]:
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> >          >>
> >          >>      Kengo Seki <[email protected]>
> >          >>
> >          >>      On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 4:11 AM Battula, Brahma Reddy
> >          >>      <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      > Looks we had so much discussed here, Let's try to
> conclude. Can we've one call on this and finalize this..?
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      > FYI. Even looks bigtop used some where[1] also..
> >          >>      > 1.
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBigtop_&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7C918f1d660eb946b9883a08da6ce62b67%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637942033097277244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=%2BPQQCUDhl%2BHGNS%2F1aLtS38Qah9zDs06qd2y%2B%2BUE%2FBKk%3D&amp;reserved=0(Microsoft_product)
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      > On 08/07/22, 8:06 PM, "Kengo Seki" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      >     Thank you for your explanation, Brahma.
> >          >>      >     CRH (abbreviation of "CHINA REDOOP HYPERLOOP"
> [1]) is supposed to be a
> >          >>      >     trademark of Redoop, so they can name the script
> crh-select without
> >          >>      >     problem.
> >          >>      >     But regarding BDP for example, I can easily find
> products that have
> >          >>      >     the same name [2][3][4] as you already mentioned,
> so I'd like to
> >          >>      >     recommend bigtop-select for avoiding unnecessary
> trouble.
> >          >>      >     Or, a single and more general word just like
> conf-select may be less
> >          >>      >     troublesome than bdp. How about "stack-select",
> for example?
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      >     [1]:
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.redoop.com%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7C918f1d660eb946b9883a08da6ce62b67%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637942033097277244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=CM8y%2Bom6hpEl98x8G2ve5J98W%2FVeEkSPnwgFiYd2C98%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >          >>      >     [2]:
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatumstudio.jp%2Fen%2Fbigdataplatform%2F&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7C918f1d660eb946b9883a08da6ce62b67%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637942033097277244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=g2ng5E0%2BTb6N52isJ7guO10C3zTGA86dSafV9h0LXbU%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >          >>      >     [3]:
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> >          >>      >     [4]:
> https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.harmony-alliance.eu%2Fbigdata-platform%2Fbig-data-platform&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbbattula%40visa.com%7C918f1d660eb946b9883a08da6ce62b67%7C38305e12e15d4ee888b9c4db1c477d76%7C0%7C0%7C637942033097277244%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=KfEGcZwpdvVZUaW1XsaUMGqVYcZyysmZhjl%2BR6Iq2wI%3D&amp;reserved=0
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      >     Kengo Seki <[email protected]>
> >          >>      >
> >          >>      >     On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 2:51 AM Battula, Brahma
> Reddy <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >Do you mean that you're going to name the
> module (same as "component"
> >          >>      >     >     >in the Bigtop terminology, I think)
> bigtop-distro-select,
> >          >>      >     >     >and still the script in question
> bdp-select? If so, is there any
> >          >>      >     >     >reason that the script must be that name?
> >          >>      >     >     >(No offence, I just want to understand
> your thoughts and its
> >          >>      >     >     >background, and avoid the conflict or
> user's confusion with existing
> >          >>      >     >     >trademarks or products)
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     > Thanks @Kengo Seki for consolidating all the
> concerns. Name should represent the stack which includes all the components
> hence planning to have like bdp,bds...and this only one file like below[1]
> which has done redoop.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >
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> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     > On 07/07/22, 6:07 AM, "Kengo Seki" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     The following concern Masatake mentioned
> before is an important point,
> >          >>      >     >     so I talked to Brahma for clarifying his
> intention on the ASF Slack
> >          >>      >     >     yesterday.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > Multiple versions of the same package
> (deb/rpm) can not be installed at the same time.
> >          >>      >     >     > IIRC, HDP uses convention in which the
> product version is part of package name
> >          >>      >     >     > for addressing this.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > I don't like to bring the awkward package
> name convention to Bigtop
> >          >>      >     >     > at least by default.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     He's planning to adopt the same mitigation
> as HDP for now, but he
> >          >>      >     >     doesn't intend to change the default
> package naming convention of
> >          >>      >     >     Bigtop,
> >          >>      >     >     but just add a new functionality to include
> an extra part into the
> >          >>      >     >     package name for avoiding conflict, which
> is disabled by default.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     And Brahma, let me confirm about the
> following reply:
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > Sure, we can have module name like
> bigtop-distro-select.
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     Do you mean that you're going to name the
> module (same as "component"
> >          >>      >     >     in the Bigtop terminology, I think)
> bigtop-distro-select,
> >          >>      >     >     and still the script in question
> bdp-select? If so, is there any
> >          >>      >     >     reason that the script must be that name?
> >          >>      >     >     (No offence, I just want to understand your
> thoughts and its
> >          >>      >     >     background, and avoid the conflict or
> user's confusion with existing
> >          >>      >     >     trademarks or products)
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     Kengo Seki <[email protected]>
> >          >>      >     >
> >          >>      >     >     On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 2:08 AM Battula,
> Brahma Reddy
> >          >>      >     >     <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > >   The name of stack based no Bigtop
> should be Bigtop.
> >          >>      >     >     >   >   If you can not accept the name like
> bigtop-*, the work should done outside of Bigtop.
> >          >>      >     >     >   >  I will cast -1 if someone submit a
> patch to add a module with the name spoiling branding.
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > Sure, we can have module name like
> bigtop-distro-select.
> >          >>      >     >     > Initially we'll do this separate branch.
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     > On 06/07/22, 8:55 AM, "Masatake Iwasaki" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     > I believe it's for project name.
> isn't it.?
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     projects and products.
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     > IMO, We need to create folders and
> refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good.
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     The name of stack based no Bigtop
> should be Bigtop.
> >          >>      >     >     >     If you can not accept the name like
> bigtop-*, the work should done outside of Bigtop.
> >          >>      >     >     >     I will cast -1 if someone submit a
> patch to add a module with the name spoiling branding.
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     On 2022/07/06 11:44, Battula, Brahma
> Reddy wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     > I believe it's for project name.
> isn't it.?
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     > On 06/07/22, 7:27 AM, "Masatake
> Iwasaki" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > But As we are not releasing
> as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, We need to create folders and
> refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      Not fine.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      We have a trademark policy.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >
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> >          >>      >     >     >     >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      On 2022/07/06 10:37, Battula,
> Brahma Reddy wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >> Should we avoid
> unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone?
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >> ambari-select or
> bigtop-select should be enough.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > Not sure, where to confirm
> whether there is already trademark. When I googled found so many.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > But As we are not releasing
> as enterprise should be fine I think. IMO, We need to create folders and
> refer stacknames so ambari-select,bigtop-select wn't looks good.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > May be you can refer the
> initial proposal [2] where I mentioned some more names.
> (BDS-BigDataStack,OSS-OpenSourceSelect..)
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > Finally thanks a bunch for
> long healthy discussions on this. Mostly we all same page now.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > 1.
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> >          >>      >     >     >     >      > On 06/07/22, 4:01 AM,
> "Masatake Iwasaki" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > We have still not
> officially finalized the new replacement name for
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > hdp-select, it would
> likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). However,
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > the purpose of
> bdp-select and conf-select remains the same.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      Should we avoid
> unrecognized brand which may be trademark of someone?
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      ambari-select or
> bigtop-select should be enough.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      On 2022/06/29 13:52,
> Viraj Jasani wrote:
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > Hi Ambari/Bigtop dev,
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > As per the new
> roadmap of Apache Ambari, we would like to propose moving
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > certain scripts
> (previously known as hdp-select and conf-select) to Bigtop
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > so that their rpm
> installation could be managed independently.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > These scripts are a
> basic necessity in the Ambari framework for the
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > installation of
> various Bigdata packages. The only major changes they would
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > receive is when we
> onboard new services and components to Ambari, else they
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > usually do not
> receive updates. In the past, we used to get hdp-select rpm
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > downloaded and
> installed from HDP repositories.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > We have still not
> officially finalized the new replacement name for
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > hdp-select, it would
> likely be bdp-select (bdp: BigData Platform). However,
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      > the purpose of
> bdp-select and conf-select remains the same.
> >          >>      >     >     >     >      >      >
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