On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> dk...@apache.org wrote
>> Having no way for this PMC to control the display of the Camel route *IS*
>> a technical justification.   If we as a PMC wanted to remove columns, add
>> new columns for new features, change the order of stuff, etc….   *WE* have
>> no way to do so.   
>> 
>> Having no way to change the branding of what is displayed *IS* a technical
>> justification.   We cannot have links popping up and icons and such that
>> promote something else.
>> 
>> Having no way to remove all the “cruft” that is unrelated to Camel *IS*  a
>> technical justification.   Claus’s screen shot on the wiki has an AcitveMQ
>> tab, Wiki tab, etc…  which would need to be removed if the goal is to have
>> a Camel route display.
>> 
>> That’s all technical justification.    This needs to be removed until they
>> can all be addressed.  
>> 
>> Oh… and the maven goal cannot be camel:hawtio.   It would need to be
>> camel:run-webconsole or similar to remove the branding part from that as
>> well.
> 
> So any 3rd party tool that aids developers, can't be run as a maven target
> unless its completely branded and controlled by the Camel PMC is the stance
> you are taking. 

If the maven plugin is part of Camel and it’s stated purpose it to present 
*Camel*  to the user, then yes.   That BETTER be under the PMC’s complete 
control and influence. 



-- 
Daniel Kulp
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Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com

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