On Dec 1, 2013, at 3:46 AM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote: > dk...@apache.org wrote >> Having no way for this PMC to control the display of the Camel route *IS* >> a technical justification. If we as a PMC wanted to remove columns, add >> new columns for new features, change the order of stuff, etc…. *WE* have >> no way to do so. >> >> Having no way to change the branding of what is displayed *IS* a technical >> justification. We cannot have links popping up and icons and such that >> promote something else. >> >> Having no way to remove all the “cruft” that is unrelated to Camel *IS* a >> technical justification. Claus’s screen shot on the wiki has an AcitveMQ >> tab, Wiki tab, etc… which would need to be removed if the goal is to have >> a Camel route display. >> >> That’s all technical justification. This needs to be removed until they >> can all be addressed. >> >> Oh… and the maven goal cannot be camel:hawtio. It would need to be >> camel:run-webconsole or similar to remove the branding part from that as >> well. > > So any 3rd party tool that aids developers, can't be run as a maven target > unless its completely branded and controlled by the Camel PMC is the stance > you are taking.
If the maven plugin is part of Camel and it’s stated purpose it to present *Camel* to the user, then yes. That BETTER be under the PMC’s complete control and influence. -- Daniel Kulp dk...@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com