While for someone who already knows Cassandra keyspace is something
natural, for newcomers it is yet another concept to understand.

If namespace is used in PostgreSQL, it sounds even better to me.

Thanks,
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Jacek Lewandowski


wt., 4 kwi 2023 o 19:07 Rahul Xavier Singh <rahul.xavier.si...@gmail.com>
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> My 2 cents:
>
> Keeping it keyspace works for me, namespace could be cool also since we
> decide where that namespace exists in relation to Datacenters, etc.  In our
> case, a Keyspace is more similar to a namespace than it is to a database
> since we expect all the UDTs,/UDFs, indexes to refer to only the tables in
> that keyspace/namespace.
>
> Alternatively interesting to observe and throw some fuel into the
> discussion , looking at the Postgres (only because there are many
> distributed databases that are now PG compliant) :
> From the interwebs:
> *In PostgreSQL, a schema is a namespace that contains named database
> objects such as tables, views, indexes, data types, functions, stored
> procedures and operators. A database can contain one or multiple schemas
> and each schema belongs to only one database.*
> I used to gripe about this but as a platform gets more complex it is
> useful to organize PG DBs into schemas. In C* world, I found myself doing
> similar things by having a prefix : e.g. appprefix_system1
> appprefix_system2 ...
>
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> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 12:52 PM Jeff Jirsa <jji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> KEYSPACE at least makes sense in the context that it is the unit that
>> defines how those partitions keys are going to be treated/replicated
>>
>> DATABASE may be ambiguous, but it's ambiguity shared across the industry.
>>
>> Creating a new name like TABLESPACE or TABLEGROUP sounds horrible because
>> it'll be unique to us in the world, and therefore unintuitive for new users.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:36 AM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think there's competing dynamics here.
>>>
>>> 1) KEYSPACE isn't that great of a name; it's not a space in which keys
>>> are necessarily unique, and you can't address things just by key w/out
>>> their respective tables
>>> 2) DATABASE isn't that great of a name either due to the aforementioned
>>> ambiguity.
>>>
>>> Something like "TABLESPACE" or 'TABLEGROUP" would *theoretically*
>>> better satisfy point 1 and 2 above but subjectively I kind of recoil at
>>> both equally. So there's that.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Abe Ratnofsky wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Bowen - I find Keyspace easier to communicate with. There
>>> are plenty of situations where the use of "database" is ambiguous (like
>>> "Could you help me connect to database x?"), but Keyspace refers to a
>>> single thing. I think more software is moving towards calling these things
>>> "namespaces" (like Kubernetes), and while "Keyspaces" is not a term used in
>>> this way elsewhere, I still find it leads to clearer communication.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Abe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Andrés de la Peña <adelap...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think supporting DATABASE is a great idea.
>>>
>>> It's better aligned with SQL databases, and can save new users one of
>>> the first troubles they find.
>>>
>>> Probably anyone starting to use Cassandra for the first time is going to
>>> face the what is a keyspace? question in the first minutes. Saving that to
>>> users with a more common name would be a victory for usability IMO.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 16:48, Mike Adamson <madam...@datastax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'd like to propose that we add DATABASE to the CQL grammar as an
>>> alternative to KEYSPACE.
>>>
>>> Background: While TABLE was introduced as an alternative for
>>> COLUMNFAMILY in the grammar we have kept KEYSPACE for the container name
>>> for a group of tables. Nearly all traditional SQL databases use DATABASE as
>>> the container name for a group of tables so it would make sense for
>>> Cassandra to adopt this naming as well.
>>>
>>> KEYSPACE would be kept in the grammar but we would update some logging
>>> and documentation to encourage use of the new name.
>>>
>>> Mike Adamson
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