Thank you Maxim, “
>From my point of view, the problem is that the javadoc task is not given the attention it deserves. The failonerror is currently 'false' and the task itself is not a part of any build and/or release processes, correct me if I'm wrong. So, 1. Fix warnings/errors; 2. Make the javadoc task part of the build (e.g. put it under 'artifacts'), or make it part of the release process that is regularly checked on the CI; 3. Publish/deploy the javadoc htmls for release in the special directory of the cassandra website to give them a chance of being indexed;“ This is aligned with what I saw and the two options mentioned at the beginning - if we decide to keep it we should fix things and add the task to CI, if we don’t because no one wants the html pages - then better to remove it this ant task. On your comment about 100 errors - it seems they are more. There is a cap of 100 but when you fix them, more errors appear. Further discussion can be found at CASSANDRA-17687 On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 14:21, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org> wrote: > Personally, I find javadocs quite useful, especially when htmls are > indexed by search engines, which in turn increases the chances of > finding the right answer faster (I have seen a lot of useful javadocs > in the source code). > > I have done a quick build of the javadocs: > > [javadoc] Building index for all the packages and classes... > [javadoc] Building index for all classes... > [javadoc] Building index for all classes... > [javadoc] 100 errors > [javadoc] 100 warnings > > 100 errors is no big deal and can be easily fixed. From my point of > view, the problem is that the javadoc task is not given the attention > it deserves. The failonerror is currently 'false' and the task itself > is not a part of any build and/or release processes, correct me if I'm > wrong. > > So, > 1. Fix warnings/errors; > 2. Make the javadoc task part of the build (e.g. put it under > 'artifacts'), or make it part of the release process that is regularly > checked on the CI; > 3. Publish/deploy the javadoc htmls for release in the special > directory of the cassandra website to give them a chance of being > indexed; > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2023 at 17:11, Jeremiah Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I don’t think anyone wants to remove the javadocs. This thread is about > removing the broken ant task which generates html files from them. > > > > +1 from me on removing the ant task. If someone feels the task is > useful they can always implement one that does not crash and add it back. > > > > -Jeremiah > > > > On Aug 3, 2023 at 9:59:55 AM, "Claude Warren, Jr via dev" < > dev@cassandra.apache.org> wrote: > >> > >> I think that we can get more developers interested if there are > available javadocs. While many of the core classes are not going to be > touched by someone just starting, being able to understand what the > external touch points are and how they interact with other bits of the > system can be invaluable, particularly when you don't have the entire code > base in front of you. > >> > >> For example, I just wrote a tool that explores the distribution of keys > across multiple sstables, I needed some of the tools classes but not much > more. Javadocs would have made that easy if I did not have the source code > in front of me. > >> > >> I am -1 on removing the javadocs. > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 4:35 AM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>> > >>> If anything, the codebase could use a little more package/class/method > markup in some places > >>> > >>> I am impressed with how diplomatic and generous you're being here > Derek. :D > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Miklosovic, Stefan wrote: > >>> > >>> That is a good idea. I would like to have Javadocs valid when going > through them in IDE. To enforce it, we would have to fix it first. If we > find a way how to validate Javadocs without actually rendering them, that > would be cool. > >>> > >>> There is a lot of legacy and rewriting of some custom-crafted > formatting of some comments might be quite a tedious task to do if it is > required to have them valid. I am in general for valid documentation and > even enforcing it but what to do with what is already there ... > >>> > >>> ________________________________________ > >>> From: Jacek Lewandowski <lewandowski.ja...@gmail.com> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 23:38 > >>> To: dev@cassandra.apache.org > >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Shall we remove ant javadoc task? > >>> > >>> NetApp Security WARNING: This is an external email. Do not click links > or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is > safe. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> With or without outputting JavaDoc to HTML, there are some errors > which we should maybe fix. We want to keep the documentation, but there can > be syntax errors which may prevent IDE generating a proper preview. So, the > question is - should we validate the JavaDoc comments as a precommit task? > Can it be done without actually generating HTML output? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jacek > >>> > >>> śr., 2 sie 2023, 22:24 użytkownik Derek Chen-Becker < > de...@chen-becker.org<mailto:de...@chen-becker.org>> napisał: > >>> Oh, whoops, I guess I'm the only one that thinks Javadoc is just the > tool and/or it's output (not the markup itself) :P If anything, the > codebase could use a little more package/class/method markup in some > places, so I'm definitely only in favor of getting rid of the ant task. I > should amend my statement to be "...I suspect most people are not opening > their browsers and looking at Javadoc..." :) > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Derek > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, 1:30 PM Josh McKenzie <jmcken...@apache.org > <mailto:jmcken...@apache.org>> wrote: > >>> most people are not looking at Javadoc when working on the codebase. > >>> I definitely use it extensively inside the IDE. But never as a > compiled set of external docs. > >>> > >>> Which is to say, I'm +1 on removing the target and I'd ask everyone to > keep javadoccing your classes and methods where things are non-obvious or > there's a logical coupling with something else in the system. :) > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Derek Chen-Becker wrote: > >>> +1. If a need comes up for Javadoc we can fix it at that point, but I > suspect most people are not looking at Javadoc when working on the codebase. > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Derek > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:11 AM Brandon Williams <dri...@gmail.com > <mailto:dri...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> I don't think even if it works anyone is going to use the output, so > >>> I'm good with removal. > >>> > >>> Kind Regards, > >>> Brandon > >>> > >>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 11:50 AM Ekaterina Dimitrova > >>> <e.dimitr...@gmail.com<mailto:e.dimitr...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Hi everyone, > >>> > We were looking into a user report around our ant javadoc task > recently. > >>> > That made us realize it is not run in CI; it finishes successfully > even if there are hundreds of errors, some potentially breaking doc pages. > >>> > > >>> > There was a ticket discussion where a few community members > mentioned that this task was probably unnecessary. 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