Hey, Hasan--
Are you thinking of some particular issues to avoid when bringing type-based rendering back? I.e. were there reasons we
can point at that it was removed the first time that we want to avoid in future?
ajs6f
Hasan wrote on 11/13/17 10:46 AM:
Hi all
I think ajs6f (A. Soroka, sorry, don't know your firstname) has a good
point here.
Is clerezza without the legacy code still attractive for people to
contribute?
@A. Soroka: IMO, if you could propose a functionality to implement on top
of clerezza in a clean way
e.g. the type-based rendering stuff but without adding a whole bunch of
other issues,
we might want to make that a part of clerezza in a new stack.
By being a committer, one could participate in defining the further
development of clerezza.
I'd be glad to hear the opinions of other clerezza devs.
regards
hasan
On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:51 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello, Hasan--
I didn't make very much progress (really any) on resuscitating the
type-based rendering system because about that time I got heavily involved
as a committer for Jena. I'm still interested in pursuing that work, tho'.
I'm certainly interested in being a committer for Clerezza, but I feel
that I have to ask, what is Clerezza? I don't mean that in a joking way, I
mean that without the type-based rendering system, I'm not sure exactly
when I would use Clerezza instead of a more well-developed and older RDF
framework like Jena or RDF4J. And if I need a measure of independence from
specific implementations, I could use Commons RDF to achieve that for most
core RDF concepts.
I got interested in Clerezza because of the type-based-rendering system,
which seemed to offer the possibility (a little bit like LDPath templating)
of an elegant stack that could take me from persistence in a triplestore
all the way through into a browser or phone, without making me work at
spending time gluing together different layers that were never intended to
handle linked data.
Can we articulate some clear, simple use cases for Clerezza?
ajs6f
A. Soroka wrote on 11/13/17 9:36 AM:
Begin forwarded message:
*From: *Hasan <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject: **Re: Interested in becoming a Clerezza committer ?*
*Date: *November 12, 2017 at 4:52:11 AM EST
*To: *"[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <
[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Reply-To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Hi Reto, Stian, A. Soroka, and all Clerezza Devs.
A year ago I started this thread.
I have made some small improvements to the website esp. the tutorials.
I admit It is a slow progress, but better slow than not at all.
I'd like to count on you all to make a faster progress.
So, if you have some ideas or would like to write or co-write tutorials,
please let us know.
Further, I would like to ask for suggestions on how to improve our
existing
codes.
Do you have issues that can be resolved within this project?
@A. Soroka: How was the outcome of your efforts to use parts of Apache
Clerezza Legacy codes (typerendering and typehandlerspace) ?
@all: Would you like to become a new committer to further develop Apache
Clerezza?
Is there anything you miss that you want to see within Apache Clerezza?
@Reto: What would you suggest to make Apache Clerezza more usable?
Cheers
Hasan
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Hasan Hasan <[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Stian
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Stian Soiland-Reyes <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Agree for playing on Clerezzas strengths on JAX-RS and I would say to
actually include the SPARQL-as-Graph binding as well.
Also worth seeing if there is possible crossover with the new incubator
podling Apache Juneau which is also looking for contributors:
http://juneau.incubator.apache.org/#about.html
I think the Clerezza website need a bit of similar tutorials to get
started
so potential contributors understand what it is all about.
Yes, it urgently needs an update.
http://clerezza.apache.org/getting-started/ links to "RESTful Web
Service
Framework (JAX-RS) Tutorial", "RDF Tutorial" and "Tutorial: Combining
JAX-RS and RDF" which are all 404 :-(
Should probably be removed since it is not what Clerezza currently is
now?
It's a pity to remove a good tutorial,
but what do you think?
Cheers
Hasan
On 10 Nov 2016 4:18 pm, "A. Soroka" <[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi, Clerezza-folks!
The most exciting part of Clerezza to me, by far, is the JAX-RS
support.
I'd rather work on Commons RDF (or Jena, where I am a committer now)
to
move RDF APIs forward, and there are lots of powerful SPARQL impls out
there, each with its own streangths and weaknesses. But the JAX-RS
thing--
that's completely unique to Clerezza, and it's a really cool idea.
It's
not
always easy to move RDF to and from the Web, and JAX-RS is a powerful,
stable, enormously-well-supported technology so reusing it is a great
tactical move. I'd be interested in working on Clerezza, but really
only
for the JAX-RS part. I'd actually be happy to see the RDF API move
towards
Commons (focus the efforts for more power!).
---
A. Soroka
Apache Jena PMC
On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:25 AM, Hasan <[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Clerezza Developers
Clerezza PMC is currently looking for new committers to help
developing
and
improving Apache Clerezza.
Apache Clerezza allows to easily develop semantic web application by
providing the following:
- An API to access RDF Graphs
- SPARQL Support
- Support of JAX-RS
If you or your colleagues are interested in being a Clerezza
committer,
please don't hesitate to contact us through this list.
You may and are encouraged to forward this email to the mailing lists
you
are involved in.
Best regards
Hasan
On behalf of Clerezza PMC
