Well to move forward, I'll put it this way. I'm interested in funding
Chris H to do work on the OCW website, and I'm interested in the feather.
But I'm not a BDFL around here (just for the funding :)). That said, I'm
happy to have a community VOTE where you have one VOTE, and I have one
VOTE, and so does the rest of the community on their favorite logos and
we'll go with that. Or you can decide that the rest of the work embodies
enough that you are willing to bend (but not break) on a few issues like
having a feather in our logo which IMO as a long standing Apache member
is something I'm a fan of in the projects that I contribute to. Yes, I know
not all Apache projects have this. Pick any 5 Apache projects and you will
find differences in a number of areas. We have a loose set of principles
that
bind us together and logos aren't necessarily one of them (though our
branding
policy is and it doesn't mandate anything other than the ™ on the logo or
on
the first appearance of Apache™ Foo on the page).

TL;DR we can VOTE, but you can already tell where my VOTE will come
in the logo. 

Cheers,
Chris
 

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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: [email protected]
WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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-----Original Message-----
From: <Joyce>, "Michael J   (398J)" <[email protected]>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:48 PM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Cc: rcmes-dev <[email protected]>, "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress

>I'd be more than happy to check it out. Can't promise I'll like it though
>;)
>
>Does the ASF have a version already grayscaled? It's possible I'm blind
>and never noticed.
>
>I think my favorite ASF logo incorporating the feather is the conductor
>using the feather instead of a baton. Can't remember the project name to
>save my life sadly. I thought that was pretty cool. Other than that I've
>always felt like it was just tacked on most of the time.
>
>Not suggesting that it has to not have the feather though. I would just
>like to compare the two. That was what I was getting at in the initial
>reply. 
>
>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 15:34, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> How about a  grayscale feather then?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:30 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've just never been the biggest fan of it in general honestly. The
>>>colors
>>> are just a bit striking and it never felt like they meld well with
>>>colors
>>> in a logos or sites to me. I realize that's pretty much borderline
>>> blasphemy though =D.
>>> 
>>> I had always hoped that the ASF would release a greyscale or more
>>>stylized
>>> feather but I'm still waiting for that to come.
>>> 
>>> ----------------
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mike what is your objection to the feather?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is looking amazing Chris!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a few pieces of feedback that I figured I would throw your
>>>> direction.
>>>>> I also realize these are early mockups so if I'm being too nitpicky
>>>> ignore
>>>>> me =D
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm really liking V2 of the main page that you mocked up. Think it
>>>>>looks
>>>>> really great! (ocw-home-v2-960-dev-00.jpeg)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would love to see a version of the logo where
>>>>> - "open" is yellow instead of the light blue
>>>>> - Where there's no feather
>>>>> - A version that tries to fit in "Apache Open Climate Workbench"
>>>>>where
>>>>> "Apache" is yellow and the rest is blue. Might be a bit challenging
>>>>>to
>>>> fit
>>>>> all of that though I'm sure =D
>>>>> 
>>>>> The overall colorscheme feels kinda dark to me. I think personally
>>>>>I'm a
>>>>> bigger fan of a lighter/brighter scheme like Sparks (
>>>>> http://spark.apache.org/). Not sure how horrible it would be to
>>>>>change
>>>> that
>>>>> though. That being said, I do like the choice of blue. Feels very
>>>> climate-y
>>>>> to me. I think green would fits climate-y as well, but I realize that
>>>> would
>>>>> be a huge pain in the bum to try to bring in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Really really love the icons that you made. I think they're super
>>>> awesome.
>>>>> Really like the general page layout that you have going on in v2
>>>>> Really like the logo abbreviation of Apache Climate with the yellow
>>>> "Apache"
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is awesome! I'm super excited. Awesome job Chris!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- Joyce
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> FRICKING LOVE this Hawley, go Hawley go!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Chief Architect
>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>>>>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>> WWW:  http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: <Joyce>, "Michael J   (398J)" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:03 PM
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, rcmes-dev
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Cc: "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)"
>>>>>><[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Forwarding this on behalf of Christopher Hawley. I think the
>>>>>>>mockups
>>>> are
>>>>>>> looking great! Really appreciate Chris taking the time to mock
>>>> something
>>>>>>> up like this. Feedback is always welcome. I¹m going to pester
>>>>>>>Chris a
>>>>>>> bunch and drag him onto the mailing
>>>>>>> list so he can participate as well :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Michael J. Joyce
>>>>>>> Engineering Applications Software Engineer
>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>>>>>>> California Institute of Technology
>>>>>>> 4800 Oak Grove Drive
>>>>>>> Pasadena, California 91109
>>>>>>> Mail Stop: 158-242
>>>>>>> Tel: (818) 354-7550
>>>>>>> Fax: (818) 393-1370
>>>> 

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