Absolutely Chris, we'll vote on everything website related. This project isn't lead by one person, Board member, VP, or otherwise. Everyone's vote is valued here. I would no more bend on my opinion than you would bend on yours, and I would never ask that anyone change their opinion because I'm the [VP/Board member/longstanding ASF Member] and I disagree with them. That's not how this community works.
If the community wants the logo with the feather, then that's what we'll have and likewise if not. If the community wants a bright pink and neon green MyLittlePony themed website, that's what we'll have (please no!!) What matters is that Hawley is making awesome website mockups. Let's focus on providing feedback instead of getting bogged down in debates. When the community votes on the final design(s) all of this will be resolved. -- Joyce On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < [email protected]> wrote: > Well to move forward, I'll put it this way. I'm interested in funding > Chris H to do work on the OCW website, and I'm interested in the feather. > But I'm not a BDFL around here (just for the funding :)). That said, I'm > happy to have a community VOTE where you have one VOTE, and I have one > VOTE, and so does the rest of the community on their favorite logos and > we'll go with that. Or you can decide that the rest of the work embodies > enough that you are willing to bend (but not break) on a few issues like > having a feather in our logo which IMO as a long standing Apache member > is something I'm a fan of in the projects that I contribute to. Yes, I know > not all Apache projects have this. Pick any 5 Apache projects and you will > find differences in a number of areas. We have a loose set of principles > that > bind us together and logos aren't necessarily one of them (though our > branding > policy is and it doesn't mandate anything other than the ™ on the logo or > on > the first appearance of Apache™ Foo on the page). > > TL;DR we can VOTE, but you can already tell where my VOTE will come > in the logo. > > Cheers, > Chris > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Chief Architect > Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > Email: [email protected] > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <Joyce>, "Michael J (398J)" <[email protected]> > Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:48 PM > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: rcmes-dev <[email protected]>, "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress > > >I'd be more than happy to check it out. Can't promise I'll like it though > >;) > > > >Does the ASF have a version already grayscaled? It's possible I'm blind > >and never noticed. > > > >I think my favorite ASF logo incorporating the feather is the conductor > >using the feather instead of a baton. Can't remember the project name to > >save my life sadly. I thought that was pretty cool. Other than that I've > >always felt like it was just tacked on most of the time. > > > >Not suggesting that it has to not have the feather though. I would just > >like to compare the two. That was what I was getting at in the initial > >reply. > > > >> On Jul 17, 2014, at 15:34, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" > >><[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> How about a grayscale feather then? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:30 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]> > >>>wrote: > >>> > >>> I've just never been the biggest fan of it in general honestly. The > >>>colors > >>> are just a bit striking and it never felt like they meld well with > >>>colors > >>> in a logos or sites to me. I realize that's pretty much borderline > >>> blasphemy though =D. > >>> > >>> I had always hoped that the ASF would release a greyscale or more > >>>stylized > >>> feather but I'm still waiting for that to come. > >>> > >>> ---------------- > >>> Mike > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Mike what is your objection to the feather? > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]> > >>>>>wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> This is looking amazing Chris! > >>>>> > >>>>> I had a few pieces of feedback that I figured I would throw your > >>>> direction. > >>>>> I also realize these are early mockups so if I'm being too nitpicky > >>>> ignore > >>>>> me =D > >>>>> > >>>>> I'm really liking V2 of the main page that you mocked up. Think it > >>>>>looks > >>>>> really great! (ocw-home-v2-960-dev-00.jpeg) > >>>>> > >>>>> I would love to see a version of the logo where > >>>>> - "open" is yellow instead of the light blue > >>>>> - Where there's no feather > >>>>> - A version that tries to fit in "Apache Open Climate Workbench" > >>>>>where > >>>>> "Apache" is yellow and the rest is blue. Might be a bit challenging > >>>>>to > >>>> fit > >>>>> all of that though I'm sure =D > >>>>> > >>>>> The overall colorscheme feels kinda dark to me. I think personally > >>>>>I'm a > >>>>> bigger fan of a lighter/brighter scheme like Sparks ( > >>>>> http://spark.apache.org/). Not sure how horrible it would be to > >>>>>change > >>>> that > >>>>> though. That being said, I do like the choice of blue. Feels very > >>>> climate-y > >>>>> to me. I think green would fits climate-y as well, but I realize that > >>>> would > >>>>> be a huge pain in the bum to try to bring in. > >>>>> > >>>>> Really really love the icons that you made. I think they're super > >>>> awesome. > >>>>> Really like the general page layout that you have going on in v2 > >>>>> Really like the logo abbreviation of Apache Climate with the yellow > >>>> "Apache" > >>>>> > >>>>> This is awesome! I'm super excited. Awesome job Chris! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- Joyce > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> FRICKING LOVE this Hawley, go Hawley go! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >>>>>> Chief Architect > >>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) > >>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >>>>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 > >>>>>> Email: [email protected] > >>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department > >>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>> From: <Joyce>, "Michael J (398J)" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:03 PM > >>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, rcmes-dev > >>>>>> <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Cc: "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)" > >>>>>><[email protected]> > >>>>>> Subject: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Forwarding this on behalf of Christopher Hawley. I think the > >>>>>>>mockups > >>>> are > >>>>>>> looking great! Really appreciate Chris taking the time to mock > >>>> something > >>>>>>> up like this. Feedback is always welcome. I¹m going to pester > >>>>>>>Chris a > >>>>>>> bunch and drag him onto the mailing > >>>>>>> list so he can participate as well :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Michael J. Joyce > >>>>>>> Engineering Applications Software Engineer > >>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems > >>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory > >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>>>>> 4800 Oak Grove Drive > >>>>>>> Pasadena, California 91109 > >>>>>>> Mail Stop: 158-242 > >>>>>>> Tel: (818) 354-7550 > >>>>>>> Fax: (818) 393-1370 > >>>> > >
