I'm in favor of having the feather. Also, I prefer spelling out open climate workbench (against OCW) as much as possible.
Cheers, ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jinwon Kim Joint Institute for Regional Earth System Science and Engineering and Dept. Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences University of California, Los Angeles 607 Charles E Young Drive East, Young Hall, Room 4242, Los Angeles, CA 90095-7228, USA [email protected]; 310-206-2828 ________________________________________ From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:33 AM To: Michael Joyce; [email protected] Cc: rcmes-dev; Hawley, Christopher R (172B) Subject: Re: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress Great, thanks. So far it's just me and you who have expressed opinions, so hopefully others will as well to break the stalemate. Chris H - thanks for the work and we'll talk more next week. Cheers! Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Chief Architect Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 Email: [email protected] WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Joyce <[email protected]> Date: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:08 AM To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: rcmes-dev <[email protected]>, "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress >Absolutely Chris, we'll vote on everything website related. This project >isn't lead by one person, Board member, VP, or otherwise. Everyone's vote >is valued here. I would no more bend on my opinion than you would bend on >yours, and I would never ask that > anyone change their opinion because I'm the [VP/Board >member/longstanding ASF Member] and I disagree with them. That's not how >this community works. > >If the community wants the logo with the feather, then that's what we'll >have and likewise if not. If the community wants a bright pink and neon >green MyLittlePony themed website, that's what we'll have (please no!!) > > >What matters is that Hawley is making awesome website mockups. Let's >focus on providing feedback instead of getting bogged down in debates. >When the community votes on the final design(s) all of this will be >resolved. > >-- Joyce > > > > >On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) ><[email protected]> wrote: > >Well to move forward, I'll put it this way. I'm interested in funding >Chris H to do work on the OCW website, and I'm interested in the feather. >But I'm not a BDFL around here (just for the funding :)). That said, I'm >happy to have a community VOTE where you have one VOTE, and I have one >VOTE, and so does the rest of the community on their favorite logos and >we'll go with that. Or you can decide that the rest of the work embodies >enough that you are willing to bend (but not break) on a few issues like >having a feather in our logo which IMO as a long standing Apache member >is something I'm a fan of in the projects that I contribute to. Yes, I >know >not all Apache projects have this. Pick any 5 Apache projects and you will >find differences in a number of areas. We have a loose set of principles >that >bind us together and logos aren't necessarily one of them (though our >branding >policy is and it doesn't mandate anything other than the ™ on the logo or >on >the first appearance of Apache™ Foo on the page). > >TL;DR we can VOTE, but you can already tell where my VOTE will come >in the logo. > >Cheers, >Chris > > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >Chief Architect >Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >Email: [email protected] >WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: <Joyce>, "Michael J (398J)" <[email protected]> > >Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 3:48 PM >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Cc: rcmes-dev <[email protected]>, "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)" ><[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress > >>I'd be more than happy to check it out. Can't promise I'll like it though >>;) >> >>Does the ASF have a version already grayscaled? It's possible I'm blind >>and never noticed. >> >>I think my favorite ASF logo incorporating the feather is the conductor >>using the feather instead of a baton. Can't remember the project name to >>save my life sadly. I thought that was pretty cool. Other than that I've >>always felt like it was just tacked on most of the time. >> >>Not suggesting that it has to not have the feather though. I would just >>like to compare the two. That was what I was getting at in the initial >>reply. >> >>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 15:34, "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" >>><[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> How about a grayscale feather then? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:30 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> I've just never been the biggest fan of it in general honestly. The >>>>colors >>>> are just a bit striking and it never felt like they meld well with >>>>colors >>>> in a logos or sites to me. I realize that's pretty much borderline >>>> blasphemy though =D. >>>> >>>> I had always hoped that the ASF would release a greyscale or more >>>>stylized >>>> feather but I'm still waiting for that to come. >>>> >>>> ---------------- >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mike what is your objection to the feather? >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Michael Joyce" <[email protected]> >>>>>>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This is looking amazing Chris! >>>>>> >>>>>> I had a few pieces of feedback that I figured I would throw your >>>>> direction. >>>>>> I also realize these are early mockups so if I'm being too nitpicky >>>>> ignore >>>>>> me =D >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm really liking V2 of the main page that you mocked up. Think it >>>>>>looks >>>>>> really great! (ocw-home-v2-960-dev-00.jpeg) >>>>>> >>>>>> I would love to see a version of the logo where >>>>>> - "open" is yellow instead of the light blue >>>>>> - Where there's no feather >>>>>> - A version that tries to fit in "Apache Open Climate Workbench" >>>>>>where >>>>>> "Apache" is yellow and the rest is blue. Might be a bit challenging >>>>>>to >>>>> fit >>>>>> all of that though I'm sure =D >>>>>> >>>>>> The overall colorscheme feels kinda dark to me. I think personally >>>>>>I'm a >>>>>> bigger fan of a lighter/brighter scheme like Sparks ( >>>>>> http://spark.apache.org/). Not sure how horrible it would be to >>>>>>change >>>>> that >>>>>> though. That being said, I do like the choice of blue. Feels very >>>>> climate-y >>>>>> to me. I think green would fits climate-y as well, but I realize >>>>>>that >>>>> would >>>>>> be a huge pain in the bum to try to bring in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Really really love the icons that you made. I think they're super >>>>> awesome. >>>>>> Really like the general page layout that you have going on in v2 >>>>>> Really like the logo abbreviation of Apache Climate with the yellow >>>>> "Apache" >>>>>> >>>>>> This is awesome! I'm super excited. Awesome job Chris! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Joyce >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> FRICKING LOVE this Hawley, go Hawley go! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. >>>>>>> Chief Architect >>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398) >>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA >>>>>>> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527 >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ >>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department >>>>>>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA >>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: <Joyce>, "Michael J (398J)" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:03 PM >>>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, rcmes-dev >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Cc: "Hawley, Christopher R (172B)" >>>>>>><[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: OCW Website Ideas - Work in Progress >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Forwarding this on behalf of Christopher Hawley. I think the >>>>>>>>mockups >>>>> are >>>>>>>> looking great! Really appreciate Chris taking the time to mock >>>>> something >>>>>>>> up like this. Feedback is always welcome. I¹m going to pester >>>>>>>>Chris a >>>>>>>> bunch and drag him onto the mailing >>>>>>>> list so he can participate as well :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Michael J. Joyce >>>>>>>> Engineering Applications Software Engineer >>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>>>>>>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory >>>>>>>> California Institute of Technology >>>>>>>> 4800 Oak Grove Drive >>>>>>>> Pasadena, California 91109 >>>>>>>> Mail Stop: 158-242 >>>>>>>> Tel: (818) 354-7550 >>>>>>>> Fax: (818) 393-1370 >>>>> > > > > > > > > >
