+1 well put.

On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Chip Childers <chipchild...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Animesh Chaturvedi
> <animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Folks since the liability of Release manager has been called out explicitly 
>> for the release I want to call out that I cannot take personal liability for 
>> a release and I am not sure why would anyone else in Release Manager role 
>> will take up personal liability. I don't see anything called out in our 
>> bylaws that states Release Manager being liable.
>> 
>> That being said I am seeking advice from ASF mentors and will discuss it in  
>> PMC. I  will proceed and build an RC after this issue is resolved.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Animesh
> 
> A couple of things:
> 
> First, we don't have any "mentors" anymore...  we're a TLP.
> 
> Second, although the question of "liability" has been clarified in the
> private@ thread, I'll summarize briefly here:
> 
> The reason that we follow the voting process (where the PMC votes are
> binding) and other ASF-wide policies, is so that any release is an
> "act of the foundation" and not an act of an individual.  The point is
> that if someone were to purposefully ignore policy, then they put
> themselves at risk.  The whole reason for the foundation to have it's
> policies is to protect all of the committers and contributors from
> personal liability!  So the only thing that really matters is that if
> we follow the policies of the foundation, there's nothing to worry
> about.
> 
> Being a release manager is nothing to worry about...  the whole PMC is
> helping to ensure that we follow policies.  As our current 4.3 issue
> has pointed out, sometimes this means we have to slow down to fix
> something.  If something slipped through, it's still not a "liability"
> issue in practical terms.  It's just a mistake that we would then work
> to correct.
> 
> Make sense?
> 
> -chip


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