> On Mar 19, 2016, at 2:12 PM, sebgoa <run...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Personally I have always thought that this is a very serious issue and trend > in open source projects and that ASF (and the board in particular) should try > to proactively address. What is the future of ASF in a GitHub world ? Can an > ASF project live outside of ASF infra, especially in a Cloud world ? Sadly I > never saw any clear proactivity from the board. >
I can answer this by asking you one question: What value, if any, do you see the ASF providing to Cloudstack? I will avoid the very Mom-like retort: "If all your friends were going to jump off a roof, would you too?" :) :) Real Open Source collaboration, and community, is more than just developer workflow. Hopefully, one day people will remember that... The ASF, however, will never forget it. Meanwhile, I still boggle at people who paint Microsoft as (still) enemies of Open Source, yet bend over backwards to portray Github as true, passionate open source liberators. People passionate about open source are seriously pushing that projects be hosted on a single-vendor, closed-source, proprietary environment. If that vendor's name was "Microsoft" or "Oracle" people would be loosing their sh*t; because it's called "Github" well, that's OK then. Kinds of reminds me, as a libertarian, as those people who are willing to give up some (real) rights and liberties for some (perceived) additional security. I'm not saying that GH isn't useful, but it's not the holy grail, nor is it a workflow and platform that we should be encouraging the next-gen of developers to swallow hook, line and sinker.
