Ui, Steven, hard words. I can understand your irritation, it's not the way I would like to see such stuff goes. But offending somebody in such an aggressive way on the public list ??
Well, it's the classical case of not paying enough attention before pressing the send button. I'm really good at this. :-|
So apologies for the tone, it was intended for the PMC list, and I was composing a follow-up message already. But I guess I'd better continue the discussion in public:
First, let's make this clear: it's good that people contribute to the new portal framework. So thanks, Friedrich, Gerald and Gernot, for donating this back to the community. Also, I fully trust Carsten in reviewing the code before committing.
OTOH, I'm still seriously concerned with this happening, especially since I've seen this before. We (= the Cocoon PMC) have the duty to provide legal oversight over the ASF Cocoon codebase. For anything else than bugfixes and minor patches, especially for new code, we must ensure copyright is correctly transferred, and that the ASF cannot be subject of patent infringement lawsuits, and all that. Hence the CLA all committers are supposed to sign and fax.
Of course, I'm very confident that Carsten has done this with the best possible intentions, but "Contributions to the portal" is hardly an intuitive commit message, and a quick search for the three people involved didn't bring up much prior discussion on the lists. If people show up off-list with anything but trivial contributions, they should be discussed or at the very least mentioned on the dev list before being committed.
I know I'm not making myself popular here and now, but given the increased number of commercial entities involved with Cocoon and its community, we're better safe than sorry.
Sorry again for the tone.
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