On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Robert Simmons wrote:

> Actually, I was proposign the removal of the avalon logging mechanism
> completely.

I would still be -1 on this because of the reasons mentioned in my
earlier mail.

Giacomo

>
> -- Robert
>
> "Carsten Ziegeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > The Avalon Logging can be changed to use Log4J. Currently the usage of the
> > LogKit
> > is hard-coded in Cocoon. I added the possibility to configure which
> logging
> > framework you want to use to the avalon core, but never had time to test
> it.
> > If this is working, only minor changes have to be made to Cocoon (changing
> > three
> > or four lines of code) and you can use Log4j in Cocoon.
> >
> > Carsten
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Simmons
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:32 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Porting Cocoon Logging to Log4j - Proposal and Discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > One of the major implementaiton complaints I have about Cocoon is its
> lack
> > > of Log4J logging functionality. Log4j, is without a doubt the best
> logging
> > > package for java. No other package can even hope to compare to
> > > it. If Cocoon
> > > was built to use Log4j instead of the avalon logging mechanism, it would
> > > gain an enormous amount of functionality that it lacks now.
> > >
> > > Personally, when working in a production environment, I dont want my log
> > > files to be put into direcroies in my web app. Id rather have
> > > them forwarded
> > > to a central log accumulation server or even sent out via JMS.
> > > Log4j allows
> > > this and many more configurations. Furthermore, it allows you to
> > > turn on and
> > > off logging on individual components with ease. Finally, Log4J is
> > > used in so
> > > many other products that it is a recognized standard logging
> > > mechanism that
> > > many organizations and even network engineers are quite familiar with.
> > >
> > > Therefore, I think Cocoon should migrate to Log4j. In order to
> contemplate
> > > this, its important that we discuss the complexities of it in the
> > > following
> > > quesitons.
> > >
> > > 1) Why has this not already been done? Is it a question of a lack of
> > > manpower or expertise? If so then I as well as others would most likely
> be
> > > happy to volunteer time to accomplish it.
> > >
> > > 2) How difficult is it to rip out the avalon logging from the cocoon
> core
> > > components? Im no avalon expert so I couldnt answer this myself.
> > >
> > > 3) Is there standard expressions that can be used for locatting logging
> > > lines in cocoon?
> > >
> > > 4) Do we upgrade some of the blocks or leave them as is and only upgrade
> > > core cocoon?
> > >
> > > I would be interested in comments and opinions.
> > >
> > > -- Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Giacomo Pati
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