@gilles
I don't have a apache gitbox account, and nearly cannot do anything on
gitbox.
So it seems a mirror question to yours.

Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> 于 2020年7月23日周四 上午8:46写道:

> 2020-07-23 1:22 UTC+02:00, Torsten Curdt <tcu...@vafer.org>:
> >>
> >> > It does not mean that a source distribution goes away.
> >>
> >> Nor did I mean that it would.
> >> I commented on the remark that one's own computer
> >> supposedly did not matter.
> >>
> >
> > Ah, then it was only the  "(that one does not really count.)" that didn't
> > sit well with you. Misunderstood.
> >
> >
> >
> >> > We have been distributing binary builds for years.
> >>
> >> Officially, for convenience (but that's not the point).
> >
> >
> >> The point is that the distributed files do not come from
> >> CI builds, but from one performed on the RM's machine.
> >>
> >
> > I realize that a local build seems to be your gold standard.
>
> Not mine. "Commons".
>
> > That's a very debatable point of view.
>
> There was no debate.
> And I would not say that Commons/Apache policy
> cannot change so that the release process is based
> entirely on CI-generated binaries.
>
> I don't see why you are putting those sideways
> conclusions into the simple issue of maintaining
> this place comfortable for everyone, not only
> for GitHub users.
>
> >
> >
> >> In this instance, I don't see why I should
> >> adapt to a flood of messages that was never discussed since
> >> I've been asked to subscribe to "issues@".
> >>
> >
> > The "flood of messages" could have been commits, people discussing issues
> > or asking questions.
> >
> > Deleting the messages should have been 10s max.
> > I wonder why you choose to be outraged instead.
>
> No, today's flood just pushed me to want to have
> something that's bothering for months, fixed.
>
> > Just put in perspective the time you spend on this thread already.
>
> Because people argue that the problem I see does not exist.
>
> >
> >
> >> Why? The CI/CD system should not matter.
> >>
> >> Sure.  It's a convenience configured by each developer or team,
> >> as they see fit.
> >> So, why the original post recommending to favour GitHub?
> >>
> >
> > Probably because it is prefered by the original poster?
>
> Of course.
> So what.
>
> >> > Are we talking about changing that?
> >>
> >> The problem (of today namely) is that we don't talk.
> >> The process for using GitHub was not discussed either.
> >>
> >
> > You mean for the automatic dependency PRs?
>
> Yes.
>
> > or in general?
>
> Wrt to GH, no care whatsoever has been taken that some
> committers might not have a GH account.
>
> >
> >
> >> For me, anything that comes through GitHub is a burden,
> >> a loss of time.  I can imagine that it is a boon for others
> >> but is this an Apache or GitHub project?
> >>
> >
> > I guess there are many people out there that like it as a tool.
> > Maybe you could explain why it's a burden for you?
>
> Sure: No GH account.
>
> >> > As long as we keep one egg (the sources) the other eggs don't really
> >> > matter.
> >> > Could you explain the problem with the basket?
> >>
> >> As said above, GitHub is inconvenient for me; thus any move
> >> that assumes otherwise, I don't agree with.
> >>
> >
> > Not sure you represent the majority,
>
> Of course not.
> Do you mean I should just go away because I don't have
> a GH account?
>
> > so maybe elaborate on
> > the inconvenience.
>
> Try to do something on GH without being logged in.
>
> Gilles
>
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