Also, I would think we should be as accommodating as possible to Mark as he is 
indeed the top maintainer on [daemon]. I doubt we’d be making progress there 
with out him. 

I’ve found his [VOTE] threads to be entirely sufficient for validation despite 
their differences in content. I’m. +1 for continuing here until I can perform a 
[daemon] release myself using the [commons-release-plugin] as an exercise. 

@Mark - do you have any opinions on my attempting a [daemon] release in the 
future for said exercise?

Cheers,
-Rob

> On Sep 7, 2020, at 10:27 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Suppose we take the following example:
> 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c99519e1c8e0a4af5be02f40e8e44b408cbc3d4568a334f3a400b94f%40%3Cdev.commons.apache.org%3E
> 
> This is Commons Daemon 1.2.0 based on RC2.
> 
> Take for example:
> 
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/commons/daemon/source/commons-daemon-1.2.0-native-src.tar.gz
> with sha256:
> 13c8d9b27d38ae1ced1fb37743239035cd1add74a8ef20bfce38386fc0b4a243
> *commons-daemon-1.2.0-native-src.tar.gz
> 
> How does one show that it is the same source that was voted on?
> 
> Also the Maven jar:
> 
> commons-daemon-1.2.0.jar
> sha1:
> a3a42da759a94a0522fe4b867ac2f5d0d58cc0a9
> 
> Sebb.
> 
>> On Mon, 7 Sep 2020 at 14:16, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>>>> [...]
>>>> see an explanation for why it is necessary
>>>> (or even helpful) to include artefact hashes in the vote mail.
>>>> 
>>> I agree and understand all your points here.
>> 
>> Well, I don't.
>> An explanation would be useful indeed.
>> 
>>>> Validating the svn revision for the dist repo [ ... vs ...]
>>>> comparing the hashes of each file to a hash provided in
>>>> the vote email. [...]
>>> 
>>> I was merely trying to offer the opposing perspective of the other folks.
>> 
>> Aren't we talking about a *requirement*?
>> Referring to the "executive summary" above (as I understand it),
>> from Mark's edited text, which information is necessary and sufficient
>> for a vote?
>> 
>> Also, isn't this discussion a rehash of my (recurrent) question
>> about whether the hash checks should be automated?
>> [I mean, isn't it sufficient that the RM would indicate in the vote
>> email that the hash values stored in the "dist" area are the same
>> as those generated by the build?]
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Gilles
>> 
>>>>> [...]
>> 
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