> On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Le dim. 6 juin 2021 à 14:54, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> Here is the draft I plan on submitting:
>> 
>> ## Description:
>> The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java focused
>> reusable libraries and components
>> 
>> ## Issues:
>> There are no issues requiring board attention."
>> 
>> ## Membership Data:
>> Apache Commons was founded 2007-06-19 (14 years ago)
>> There are currently 149 committers and 41 PMC members in this project.
>> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 5:2.
>> 
>> Community changes, past quarter:
>> - Peter Lee was added to the PMC on 2021-03-09
>> - No new committers. Last addition was Peter Lee on 2020-03-13.
>> 
>> ## Project Activity:
>> Apache Commons has released feature and bug fix releases for:
>> - POOL-2.10.0 was released on 2021-06-01.
>> - IO-2.9.0 was released on 2021-05-26.
>> - VFS-2.8.0 was released on 2021-03-10.
>> 
>> ## Community Health:
>> The community is healthy and processessing more than the previous reporting
>> period on our mailing lists, JIRA, and GitHub. Most of the activity comes
>> from PRs on GitHubs which has become an extremely helpful tool through its 
>> PRs
>> and GitHub Actions builds. There are fewer commits than in the previous
>> reporting period but all other metrics as noted above are up.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
> 
> I don't think that "No new committers" and "Most of the activity comes
> from PRs on GitHub" is particularly "healthy".
> And, again, the advertised numbers of committers and PMC members
> could be formally correct but is, for any purpose, misleading.
> 

I am not sure what you are asking be done. No new committers and most 
of the activity comes from GitHub is not at all unusual. Activity through PRs 
doesn’t equate to new committers. Someone has to demonstrate that they 
are planning on sticking around and a single PR doesn’t accomplish that.

The fact is that Commons has plenty of active PMC members and committers 
and there is a lot of development work going on. Unless there are problems 
the PMC can’t address that is pretty much all the board cares about.

Every PMC I am involved in reports numbers that don’t reflect reality. That 
is primarily because the numbers are derived from Apache Reporter which 
is simply counting numbers from LDAP.

Ralph



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