On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 at 00:06, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Le lun. 7 juin 2021 à 00:03, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> a écrit > : > > > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Le dim. 6 juin 2021 à 14:54, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a > > > écrit : > > >> > > >> Here is the draft I plan on submitting: > > >> > > >> ## Description: > > >> The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java > > >> focused > > >> reusable libraries and components > > >> > > >> ## Issues: > > >> There are no issues requiring board attention." > > >> > > >> ## Membership Data: > > >> Apache Commons was founded 2007-06-19 (14 years ago) > > >> There are currently 149 committers and 41 PMC members in this project. > > >> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 5:2. > > >> > > >> Community changes, past quarter: > > >> - Peter Lee was added to the PMC on 2021-03-09 > > >> - No new committers. Last addition was Peter Lee on 2020-03-13. > > >> > > >> ## Project Activity: > > >> Apache Commons has released feature and bug fix releases for: > > >> - POOL-2.10.0 was released on 2021-06-01. > > >> - IO-2.9.0 was released on 2021-05-26. > > >> - VFS-2.8.0 was released on 2021-03-10. > > >> > > >> ## Community Health: > > >> The community is healthy and processessing more than the previous > > >> reporting > > >> period on our mailing lists, JIRA, and GitHub. Most of the activity comes > > >> from PRs on GitHubs which has become an extremely helpful tool through > > >> its PRs > > >> and GitHub Actions builds. There are fewer commits than in the previous > > >> reporting period but all other metrics as noted above are up. > > >> > > >> Gary > > >> > > > > > > I don't think that "No new committers" and "Most of the activity comes > > > from PRs on GitHub" is particularly "healthy". > > > And, again, the advertised numbers of committers and PMC members > > > could be formally correct but is, for any purpose, misleading. > > > > > > > I am not sure what you are asking be done. > > I've given my interpretation of a situation stated in the report. > I've asked a question. If you don't have the answer, then > nothing need be done. > > > No new committers and most > > of the activity comes from GitHub is not at all unusual. > > Maybe. But not "healthy", IMHO. > > > Activity through PRs > > doesn’t equate to new committers. Someone has to demonstrate that they > > are planning on sticking around and a single PR doesn’t accomplish that. > > I made the same point. > > > The fact is that Commons has plenty of active PMC members and committers > > and there is a lot of development work going on. Unless there are problems > > the PMC can’t address that is pretty much all the board cares about. > > > > Every PMC I am involved in reports numbers that don’t reflect reality. That > > is primarily because the numbers are derived from Apache Reporter which > > is simply counting numbers from LDAP.
This is particularly true for Commons, as commits can be made by any ASF committer, not just those in the LDAP project member group. So there is little need to update the member group. If there are regular (or even occasional) ASF committers who commit to Commons, we should perhaps be adding them to the member list as a way of documenting them. > > Reporting "numbers that don’t reflect reality" is misleading, that's all. I agree there. > Thanks, > Gilles > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
