Le lun. 7 juin 2021 à 00:03, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> a écrit :
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> > On Jun 6, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Gilles Sadowski <gillese...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Le dim. 6 juin 2021 à 14:54, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> >> Here is the draft I plan on submitting:
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> >> ## Description:
> >> The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java 
> >> focused
> >> reusable libraries and components
> >>
> >> ## Issues:
> >> There are no issues requiring board attention."
> >>
> >> ## Membership Data:
> >> Apache Commons was founded 2007-06-19 (14 years ago)
> >> There are currently 149 committers and 41 PMC members in this project.
> >> The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 5:2.
> >>
> >> Community changes, past quarter:
> >> - Peter Lee was added to the PMC on 2021-03-09
> >> - No new committers. Last addition was Peter Lee on 2020-03-13.
> >>
> >> ## Project Activity:
> >> Apache Commons has released feature and bug fix releases for:
> >> - POOL-2.10.0 was released on 2021-06-01.
> >> - IO-2.9.0 was released on 2021-05-26.
> >> - VFS-2.8.0 was released on 2021-03-10.
> >>
> >> ## Community Health:
> >> The community is healthy and processessing more than the previous reporting
> >> period on our mailing lists, JIRA, and GitHub. Most of the activity comes
> >> from PRs on GitHubs which has become an extremely helpful tool through its 
> >> PRs
> >> and GitHub Actions builds. There are fewer commits than in the previous
> >> reporting period but all other metrics as noted above are up.
> >>
> >> Gary
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> > I don't think that "No new committers" and "Most of the activity comes
> > from PRs on GitHub" is particularly "healthy".
> > And, again, the advertised numbers of committers and PMC members
> > could be formally correct but is, for any purpose, misleading.
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> I am not sure what you are asking be done.

I've given my interpretation of a situation stated in the report.
I've asked a question.  If you don't have the answer, then
nothing need be done.

> No new committers and most
> of the activity comes from GitHub is not at all unusual.

Maybe.  But not "healthy", IMHO.

> Activity through PRs
> doesn’t equate to new committers. Someone has to demonstrate that they
> are planning on sticking around and a single PR doesn’t accomplish that.

I made the same point.

> The fact is that Commons has plenty of active PMC members and committers
> and there is a lot of development work going on. Unless there are problems
> the PMC can’t address that is pretty much all the board cares about.
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> Every PMC I am involved in reports numbers that don’t reflect reality. That
> is primarily because the numbers are derived from Apache Reporter which
> is simply counting numbers from LDAP.

Reporting "numbers that don’t reflect reality" is misleading, that's all.

Thanks,
Gilles

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