+1 to what Ted wrote. We've had some extremely heated interchanges over this, going back to 2005 (ApacheCon Stuttgart and San Diego), as far as I can recall. I know many of us want nothing more than the ASF to be --not just perceived-- more welcoming to everyone. That, to me, feels like it's in the domain of ComDev to drive. Kind thanks, Sally
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, at 11:19, Ted Dunning wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Sally Khudairi <s...@apache.org> wrote:>> > .... We have quite vocal ASF Members who >> feel that we're misogynistic and not female/*-friendly. Just saying.> > > Frankly, we have members who seem to think that Apache *should* be > organizationally misogynist. This is usually framed as "hasn't been > proved that there is a bias" combined with "we shouldn't be doing > anything to prove or test for bias". Occasionally statements very > similar in flavor to Damore's are made, but with considerably less > camouflage.> > I think it is really unfortunate, but there (stunningly) I don't > really see a consensus at Apache on this.