Thank you Issac and Eric for raising your concerns. Let me give a brief history from where the idea of forming official local community was initiated.
Recently, I got the opportunity to explore the possibility of having roadshow in India. During this process, I faced many challenges in contacting the local Apache people and committers, these challenges and my previous experiences (with other communities and student community) gives birth to the idea of forming the Apache Local Community (ALC). Here is the mail thread for that discussion https://s.apache.org/ucfo4 So, here I would like to share with you the advantages of having official ALCs. -- It will open the doors for having frequent and small events for the local Open Source community. Currently, we have ApacheCon and Roadshows. The frequency and location of these events is limited. With ALC we can plan smaller events, like mini-roadshows and mini-ApacheCon type events but for this, it is very important to have the right messaging. To execute these events and having correct messaging, it becomes important to form an official local community with some guidelines. -- It will help build and expand communities. If we have multiple local meetups by different groups, there will not be a single place where Apache enthusiasts can meet. Through ALC we can unite them and it will strenghth our community reach at that local area. The real issue here is, an Apache enthusiast (or new individual interested in Apache) don't know which are the existing Apache community near them, whom they can contact and exchange their thoughts/ideas. So, to make this community searchable, we need to list them somewhere (like we did at https://s.apache.org/alc-chapters) Again, if we don't form these groups officially, we will be unable to form a single unified group in a town/city. Thus the ALC approach will unite our scattered strength at one place in a location. -- It will provide a platform for different project committers from the same town/city to meet and exchange knowledge, thoughts, and ideas. -- In the future, we can set a common goal for our local communities and execute it. Like for "e.g." if we decided as a foundation - for the next 3 months our goal is to increase the Apache awareness in local universities. So to execute this goal we can guide our ALCs to put the focused effort in Universities for the next three months and I am sure the commulative result of this effort will be amazing. *Important* - Targeting university as a goal was just an example. Our goal as foundation could be anything and I am just saying these local ALC will help us in getting them executed is a more efficient and impactful way in the local region. These are the some advantages of forming the official local community. Let me bring one more point here, (which I thought could be your concern). Trust me, the introduction of ALC will not affect anything which is going on currently. For e.g. if individual or group wants to execute an event/meetup independently, they can, nobody can/will stop them and actually, our foundation culture is such everyone will support :) But it will be just that, that event/meetup will not be officially by Apache. (Although, we can encourage them to join/form a local community but do they want to be part of ALC, or not, will always be their individual choice). So, with the introduction of ALC, any existing thing will not be affected, it will just open the doors for new great opportunities. Apologies, if I misunderstood anything, hope this information will be useful. Best regards, Swapnil M Mane, www.apache.org On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:51 PM Eric Covener <cove...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:48 AM Issac Goldstand <mar...@beamartyr.net> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > >> I've mentioned before that my standpoint is that it's impossible to > > >> properly police every fan driven event out there, and I seem to > > >> recall that use of a trademark by fans in a manner that isn't making > > >> profits is generally considered acceptable use. Is it not therefore > > >> a good-enoungh way to start by allowing (CTR instead of RTC as it were)? > > > > > > Absolutely. We don't even *want* to police every fan event. And we > > > want a LOT of fan events. The nuance is the moment we give our > > > Official Seal Of Approval to a group/event/organization, then we are > > > implicitly approving their message, and that's where we introduce > > > audience confusion. > > > > Why do we, as the ASF and/or as community.a.o want to give our Offic > > Seal of Approval to small events / meetups? > > > > To be clear, I'm *not* suggesting that we refuse to help. We can - > > should! - support groups that request it, but I'm asking why there's any > > de-facto expectation that there should be an Official Seal of Approval > > for small events / meetups. > > +1, It seems to me like the seal of approval route is riskier than > just treating them like any other usergroup or meetup. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
