+1 Cheers Jan --
> On 28.07.2014, at 20:14, Robert Samuel Newson <[email protected]> wrote: > > +1 to that clarification. > >> On 28 Jul 2014, at 19:07, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Joan, for clarification, I've not made the edit. I put it in the >> errata. If everyone on this thread is happy with me making the >> addition of "single" as previously explained, I will do so. But I'll >> need everyone who's already voted to say they're happy with that. >> >> That would be changing: >> >> "A -1 vote is never called a veto except when using the RTC approval >> model. This is because a -1 vote never has the power to block a vote >> outside of RTC." >> >> To this: >> >> "A -1 vote is never called a veto except when using the RTC approval >> model. This is because a single -1 vote never has the power to block a >> vote outside of RTC." >> >>> On 28 July 2014 19:28, Joan Touzet <[email protected]> wrote: >>> With this modification, I concur. +1 on these changes, and thanks for >>> getting this and the minor errata from others merged into a single vote >>> so promptly! >>> >>> -Joan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Noah Slater" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:58:49 PM >>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Amend CouchDB bylaws >>> >>> Dang. Where I say that a -1 never has the power to block a vote, I >>> really mean a *single* -1 vote. Of course, -1 votes can still block a >>> vote if you have enough of them. The point is that they're not vetos >>> >>> I don't think this is enough for me to abort the vote, as the rules >>> are quite clear in the approval models section. This only serves as a >>> clarification of the statement that a -1 vote is not *called* a veto >>> outside of RTC. >>> >>> If you think this is important enough to restart the vote, I shall do so. >>> >>> In the mean time, I have created an Errata document: >>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Errata >>> >>>> On 28 July 2014 18:25, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Sensible. Thanks for catching this! >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Best >>>> Jan >>>> -- >>>> >>>>> On 28.07.2014, at 16:55, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello folks, >>>>> >>>>> In a discussion between myself, Joan, and Bob on IRC today, it became >>>>> clear that there are some major errors that need fixing ASAP. >>>>> >>>>> Here's my candidate doc that we are voting on: >>>>> >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44302814 >>>>> >>>>> This vote uses majority approval model and expires in 72 hours. >>>>> >>>>> Please review and cast your vote. >>>>> >>>>> The page history is messy, but here is a list of the changes I made, >>>>> in order of importance. The last half are a wrap-up of all the >>>>> outstanding errata. >>>>> >>>>> - Dropped "majority approval" approval model, as this allowed blocking >>>>> -1 votes on non-technical decisions. Confirmed with other major >>>>> contributors to the bylaws that this did not match our intentions >>>>> >>>>> - Updated decision table to use "lazy majority" or "lazy 2/3 majority" >>>>> instead of "majority approval" as necessary >>>>> >>>>> - Clarified that "veto" only applies to -1 votes using RTC >>>>> >>>>> - Change our most preferred method of decision making to "Lazy >>>>> consensus or RTC" per Bob's feedback that we actually have two primary >>>>> decision making models, one for code and one for everything else >>>>> >>>>> - Dropped a redundant sentence about the Chair not being a leader >>>>> >>>>> - Changed "RTC Approval & Vetos" to "RTC and Vetos" so anchors work >>>>> >>>>> - Fixed internal anchors, and added a few additional ones >>>>> >>>>> - Added example about using email TAGS >>>>> >>>>> - Tightened up wording about the PMC delegating responsibility >>>>> >>>>> - Minor fixes for wording and case >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Noah Slater >>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >> >> >> >> -- >> Noah Slater >> https://twitter.com/nslater >
