+1
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,,,^..^,,,

On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Robert Samuel Newson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> +1
>
> On 28 Jul 2014, at 20:28, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks folks.
>>
>> I added it here:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=44302833&selectedPageVersions=3&selectedPageVersions=2
>>
>> We are now voting on the following changeset:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=44302833&selectedPageVersions=3&selectedPageVersions=1
>>
>> (Apologies for the in-situ edit!)
>>
>> People who vote after this email: PLEASE CONFIRM YOU UNDERSTAND AN
>> EDIT WAS MADE. Thanks. It's important to be rigorous here. :)
>>
>> On 28 July 2014 21:16, Jason Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> เมื่อ วันอังคารที่ 29 กรกฎาคม ค.ศ. 2014, Joan Touzet <[email protected]>
>>> เขียนว่า:
>>>
>>>> Noah asked me to clarify what I mean here.
>>>>
>>>> I vote +1, with the understanding that the clarification he has listed
>>>> below is the intent of the rule.
>>>>
>>>> -Joan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joan Touzet" <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
>>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:28:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Amend CouchDB bylaws
>>>>
>>>> With this modification, I concur. +1 on these changes, and thanks for
>>>> getting this and the minor errata from others merged into a single vote
>>>> so promptly!
>>>>
>>>> -Joan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Noah Slater" <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
>>>> To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:58:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Amend CouchDB bylaws
>>>>
>>>> Dang. Where I say that a -1 never has the power to block a vote, I
>>>> really mean a *single* -1 vote. Of course, -1 votes can still block a
>>>> vote if you have enough of them. The point is that they're not vetos
>>>>
>>>> I don't think this is enough for me to abort the vote, as the rules
>>>> are quite clear in the approval models section. This only serves as a
>>>> clarification of the statement that a -1 vote is not *called* a veto
>>>> outside of RTC.
>>>>
>>>> If you think this is important enough to restart the vote, I shall do so.
>>>>
>>>> In the mean time, I have created an Errata document:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Errata
>>>>
>>>> On 28 July 2014 18:25, Jan Lehnardt <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>> Sensible. Thanks for catching this!
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>> Jan
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28.07.2014, at 16:55, Noah Slater <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a discussion between myself, Joan, and Bob on IRC today, it became
>>>>>> clear that there are some major errors that need fixing ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's my candidate doc that we are voting on:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=44302814
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This vote uses majority approval model and expires in 72 hours.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please review and cast your vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page history is messy, but here is a list of the changes I made,
>>>>>> in order of importance. The last half are a wrap-up of all the
>>>>>> outstanding errata.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dropped "majority approval" approval model, as this allowed blocking
>>>>>> -1 votes on non-technical decisions. Confirmed with other major
>>>>>> contributors to the bylaws that this did not match our intentions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Updated decision table to use "lazy majority" or "lazy 2/3 majority"
>>>>>> instead of "majority approval" as necessary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Clarified that "veto" only applies to -1 votes using RTC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Change our most preferred method of decision making to "Lazy
>>>>>> consensus or RTC" per Bob's feedback that we actually have two primary
>>>>>> decision making models, one for code and one for everything else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Dropped a redundant sentence about the Chair not being a leader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Changed "RTC Approval & Vetos" to "RTC and Vetos" so anchors work
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Fixed internal anchors, and added a few additional ones
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Added example about using email TAGS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Tightened up wording about the PMC delegating responsibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Minor fixes for wording and case
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Noah Slater
>>>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Noah Slater
>>>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
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