Agreed. If some external entity wishes to sponsor Outreachy *for us*, without using us as a middle-man at all, then all is cool.
On 2019/06/19 18:20:14, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not subscribed to diversity-private, so it was a bit disappointing to > see that these discussions are not going on in public. However, I have a > question that may have already been discussed so pardon if they already > have:> > > > > Outreachy appears to be a non-profit that accepts donations, do we know for > sure that Outreachy cannot manage the money for us? As in, the sponsor > offering the ASF target sponsorship money instead donates the money to > Outreachy who then writes the check to the intern?> > > > > Thanks,> > > -Alex> > > > > On 6/19/19, 10:24 AM, "Sam Ruby" <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:12 PM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >> > > > On 2019/06/19 15:12:42, William A Rowe Jr <[email protected]> wrote:> > > > > I am not understanding how other members investing their individual > energy>> > > > > into a new initiative translates into your valuation or scorn?> > > >> > > > If that was all, then I agree. I would have no reason nor basis to say > anything.> > > >> > > > But that is not it.> > > >> > > > Instead, they are asking to spend ASF funds and bypass/work-around a > long standing tenet. It is much more than just investing 'individual > energy'.> > > >> > > > Pretend, for example, that I am interested in learning more Kotlin and > investing my individual energy in doing so. No big deal right? Now pretend in > doing so, I want the ASF to pay for someone to train me. At that point, it > becomes much more than me just investing my own individual energy. It is > expecting the ASF to fund my education, my learning, my development, my > knowledge. I would fully expect such a scenario to cause... heartburn.> > > >> > > > I hope you see the parallels.> > > >> > > > --> > > > Jim (trying to be respectful)> > > > > > I acknowledge that you are trying to be respectful, but some of the basic > facts:> > > > > > 1) Outreachy is an existing program that is well documented and> > > aligned with the mission of this committee. If you have questions on> > > that, the best place to start is with that documentation. If, after> > > reading that documentation, you have specific questions, by all means> > > bring them here.> > > > > > 2) There is a targeted donation in progress which could conceivably be> > > used to fund this pilot. In its entirety. The committee has sought> > > guidance from the board on whether or not that would be appropriate.> > > We are awaiting a response.> > > > > > 3) Whether or not the development of a whimsy tool is an appropriate> > > choice for an intern is a separate thread. If you have questions> > > along these lines, I encourage you to participate in that thread. The> > > quick summary: the ASF paid for the development of a "self serve tool"> > > by infrastructure contractors. Individuals at the ASF have expressed> > > a need for a tool to help with the development and approval of> > > incubator reports. Perhaps with the help of the targeted donation and> > > the Outreachy program we can satisfy this need.> > > > > > - Sam Ruby> > > > > > > >
