Thanks. I am trying to see how your reply is in any way
a response to my post. I know what Outreachy is; I know
what a targeted donation is; I know what Whimsy is. None of
which applies in any way to my email. If somehow your email
was supposed to address, directly, my post and the points it
makes, I fail to see how.

On 2019/06/19 17:23:38, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote: 
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 1:12 PM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> >> 
> > On 2019/06/19 15:12:42, William A Rowe Jr <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> > > I am not understanding how other members investing their individual 
> > > energy>> 
> > > into a new initiative translates into your valuation or scorn?> 
> >> 
> > If that was all, then I agree. I would have no reason nor basis to say 
> > anything.> 
> >> 
> > But that is not it.> 
> >> 
> > Instead, they are asking to spend ASF funds and bypass/work-around a long 
> > standing tenet. It is much more than just investing 'individual energy'.> 
> >> 
> > Pretend, for example, that I am interested in learning more Kotlin and 
> > investing my individual energy in doing so. No big deal right? Now pretend 
> > in doing so, I want the ASF to pay for someone to train me. At that point, 
> > it becomes much more than me just investing my own individual energy. It is 
> > expecting the ASF to fund my education, my learning, my development, my 
> > knowledge. I would fully expect such a scenario to cause... heartburn.> 
> >> 
> > I hope you see the parallels.> 
> >> 
> > --> 
> > Jim (trying to be respectful)> 
> 
> I acknowledge that you are trying to be respectful, but some of the basic 
> facts:> 
> 
> 1) Outreachy is an existing program that is well documented and> 
> aligned with the mission of this committee.  If you have questions on> 
> that, the best place to start is with that documentation.  If, after> 
> reading that documentation, you have specific questions, by all means> 
> bring them here.> 
> 
> 2) There is a targeted donation in progress which could conceivably be> 
> used to fund this pilot.  In its entirety.  The committee has sought> 
> guidance from the board on whether or not that would be appropriate.> 
> We are awaiting a response.> 
> 
> 3) Whether or not the development of a whimsy tool is an appropriate> 
> choice for an intern is a separate thread.  If you have questions> 
> along these lines, I encourage you to participate in that thread.  The> 
> quick summary: the ASF paid for the development of a "self serve tool"> 
> by infrastructure contractors.  Individuals at the ASF have expressed> 
> a need for a tool to help with the development and approval of> 
> incubator reports. Perhaps with the help of the targeted donation and> 
> the Outreachy program we can satisfy this need.> 
> 
> - Sam Ruby> 
> 

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