Outreachy seeks sponsors to fund the general fund each round (every six months). We have some general fund sponsors who have an agreement to donate a specific amount each year.
Yearly donors help us more, because they provide a steady funding source we can use for long-term projects, like hiring additional staff. Outreachy is run by just me currently. We've paid hourly contractors before, but they've moved onto other full-time opportunities. I would be open to discussing how Outreachy and the ASF could work together. The only thing I can think of right now is promotion, but with 15 times more applicants than mentors, I don't think promoting to applicants will be helpful. Promoting Outreachy to ASF sponsor companies might help us. I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, but we can brainstorm more. Sage Sharp Outreachy Organizer On Wed, Jun 26, 2019, 5:39 PM Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok. So how can ASF and Outreachy work together under the general fund to > further the missions of both organizations? > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Sage Sharp <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 5:06:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Outreachy framework proposal > > The grey areas of that policy seem to exactly overlap with the requirements > for Outreachy internships. Even if it's a non-programming internship, the > results of the internships must be publicly available. That probably rules > out any of the non-programming projects I listed under the rules of thumb > you outlined. > > It does sound like a donation to the Outreachy general fund would work. > > Sage Sharp > Outreachy Organizer > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 4:59 PM Ross Gardler > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The policy (like most in the ASF) is Grey at the edges. Strictly speaking > > it's that we don't pay for anything the project communities should do for > > themselves. > > > > It gets confusing when talking about infra, marketing, legal etc. Which > we > > pay for. > > > > As a general rule of thumb (not a firm policy IMHO) if it goes into the > > projects version control then it should not be paid for by the > foundation. > > This would include docs and training. > > > > Another rule of thumb I use (again not firm policy) is that if it impacts > > the potential for others to monetize around the software then the ASF > > should not pay for it. So docs and training materials would be out by > that > > guiding principle. > > > > I agree there is no policy against ASF paying for general fund work. > > However, this would have to fully align with the mission of the > foundation. > > Part of which is to support the creation of communities around our > > projects. This, I believe, fits both the D&I and Outreachy goals in this > > conversation. > > > > Ross > > > > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > > > > > > > From: Sage Sharp > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 4:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Outreachy framework proposal > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Ross Gardler > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm on my mobile and not able to conduct a full search of the project > > site > > > but... > > > > > > It is a fact that the ASF does not pay for code, by design. Nobody here > > > has the right to ignore that. Challenge it, through the membership, > sure. > > > But do not ignore it. > > > > > > > Is the ASF policy limited to *software*? Does ASF also have a policy for > > not paying for documentation, translation, graphical design, or user > > experience work? Outreachy internships are not limited to programming. > > > > Additionally, there is no policy that prevents the ASF from contributing > > directly to the Outreachy general fund and specifying that the funding > not > > go towards internships or creating software. The funds can go towards > > running the Outreachy program, which takes approximately 400 organizer > > hours per round. It could go towards running career and interview > workshops > > for Outreachy interns. The funds would have to not go towards improving > the > > Outreachy internship website, although that code would certainly would > not > > compete with any ASF member projects. > > > > Sage Sharp > > Outreachy Organizer > > > > > > >
