Kevin misunderstood the suggestion. I was correcting him given the conduct of some people on these lists, Greg, I find it interesting you've chosen to chastise *me* for the second time
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 08:50, Greg Stein <[email protected]> wrote: > For somebody quoting "yes, and...", the response below is very > aggressive towards Kevin's opinions. Where is the "yes, and..." in > this reply to create an inclusive atmosphere on this mailing list? > > -g > > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 03:19:07PM +0200, Naomi S wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 15:01, Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > - It sets up the precedence that every hard decision will wait a year > > > for a member referendum > > > > > > > no, it doesn't. I'm saying we might want to wait an additional year > > because we, as a committee, have not ourselves decided what we want to do > > yet > > > > - It insults the sitting board that they can't make a tough decision. > > > > > > > not, it doesn't. it would be the board who ultimately rubber stamp the > idea > > to poll the membership. the D&I committee certainly has no power to enact > > such a thing. we would be suggesting this to the board as a possible way > > forward, and they can tell us whether they deem it prudent/necessary > should > > the situation come to pass > > > > - It infers the need to circumvent a possible negative board decisions > > > and instead go to the members to "overrule" them either retro- or > > > proactively. > > > > > > > see above > > > > > > > - In the lawyer world there is a quote, never ask a question you don't > > > know the answer to. This is a massive gamble. > > > > > > > what are we gambling? as in, what do we lose? the current situation, it > > seems is, we won't fund Outreachy. if we ask and the board or the > > membership and there is a decision to maintain the status quo, nothing > has > > changed and nothing has been lost > > > > conversely, if we don't ask, we get the same outcome. so we have > everything > > to gain and nothing to lose > > > > > > > - I predict this particular topic of effectively paying for code will > > > create partisan divisions with our members who are likely to vehemently > > > disagree/agree > > > > > > > same is true for any tough decision. but that doesn't mean we should > avoid > > making tough decisions >
