Hi Myrle,

The current page (thanks for acting on this so quickly) says:

Your comment has been rejected as off-topic. It is not helpful in moving the 
project forward.

My intent was to say it's not only off-topic but it is not helpful to *any* 
project. Moderator has already passed beyond "off-topic but otherwise useful". 
So I think we are not at off-topic at all. We are at not helpful. Think 
"self-aggrandizement", "pure sarcastic snark".

So I'd rephrase the moderation comment:

Your comment has been rejected as not helpful in moving the project forward.

Regards,

Craig

> On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 4:07 PM Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Problem: Not helpful; no actionable or useful content.
>> Alternative behavior: Don't post this message
>> Moderation comment: Not helpful in moving the project forward.
>> 
> 
> Hey Craig,
> 
> Thank you for the suggestion.  I've added it to the wiki right after
> off-topic.
> 
> With regard to alternative behavior, I realized that I haven't sufficiently
> articulated what that column is for.  The heading was wrong.  Each
> moderation action should be tied to the benefit for the community.  I've
> adjusted the heading to:  "Result for the community we are trying to
> achieve".
> 
> I feel like these "results" are actually at the core of what we should be
> trying to achieve here.  Moderation (and commenting in general) shouldn't
> be about adjusting the debate "score", or "winning".  It certainly
> shouldn't be about punishing.  It should be there to make the community a
> better and more productive place to work.
> 
> In that context, I've replaced "Don't post this message" with "Keep
> conversations on the topics the list is intended for; Improve the
> signal-to-noise ratio on the list to make it more useful."
> 
> I'd love to hear your opinion.  Is this an improvement?  Do you have ideas
> to refine it?
> 
> Best,
> Myrle

Craig L Russell
[email protected]

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