Hey Craig,

ACK and Done.

Myrle

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 9:17 PM Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Myrle,
>
> The current page (thanks for acting on this so quickly) says:
>
> Your comment has been rejected as off-topic. It is not helpful in moving
> the project forward.
>
> My intent was to say it's not only off-topic but it is not helpful to
> *any* project. Moderator has already passed beyond "off-topic but otherwise
> useful". So I think we are not at off-topic at all. We are at not helpful.
> Think "self-aggrandizement", "pure sarcastic snark".
>
> So I'd rephrase the moderation comment:
>
> Your comment has been rejected as not helpful in moving the project
> forward.
>
> Regards,
>
> Craig
>
> > On Jul 21, 2019, at 11:24 AM, Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 4:07 PM Craig Russell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Problem: Not helpful; no actionable or useful content.
> >> Alternative behavior: Don't post this message
> >> Moderation comment: Not helpful in moving the project forward.
> >>
> >
> > Hey Craig,
> >
> > Thank you for the suggestion.  I've added it to the wiki right after
> > off-topic.
> >
> > With regard to alternative behavior, I realized that I haven't
> sufficiently
> > articulated what that column is for.  The heading was wrong.  Each
> > moderation action should be tied to the benefit for the community.  I've
> > adjusted the heading to:  "Result for the community we are trying to
> > achieve".
> >
> > I feel like these "results" are actually at the core of what we should be
> > trying to achieve here.  Moderation (and commenting in general) shouldn't
> > be about adjusting the debate "score", or "winning".  It certainly
> > shouldn't be about punishing.  It should be there to make the community a
> > better and more productive place to work.
> >
> > In that context, I've replaced "Don't post this message" with "Keep
> > conversations on the topics the list is intended for; Improve the
> > signal-to-noise ratio on the list to make it more useful."
> >
> > I'd love to hear your opinion.  Is this an improvement?  Do you have
> ideas
> > to refine it?
> >
> > Best,
> > Myrle
>
> Craig L Russell
> [email protected]
>
>

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