On 7/21/2019 11:49 PM, Myrle Krantz wrote:
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 1:29 AM Patricia Shanahan <[email protected]> wrote:

I am very troubled by "provoke an angry response". Sometimes, things
need to be said that will anger a significant portion of people on the
list.


You're right, Patricia.  The wording *is*problematic.  What I'm trying to
capture here is trolling.  That is: writing emails which  are intended to
stir things up rather than move a conversation forward.  But the word
"trolling" is all about intention.  Intention is hard to determine reliably
and easy to deny.  And maybe only marginally relevant.  So I'm trying to
relate this to the effect on the community instead.  Do you have an idea as
to how to phrase this better?

I don't think there is a way, because one person's troll may be another person's sincerely held and strongly expressed opinion.

My preference would be to drop it completely. The CoC already covers the cases that I think should be restricted. We are all adults here. If someone wants to make the rest of the mailing list participants think they are rude and inconsiderate, they should be let do so.

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