On 3/19/25 23:01, Chris Lambertus wrote:


On Mar 19, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote:

On 3/19/25 11:28, Ruth Suehle wrote:
Those of you who have read my board report for today's meeting will have
seen that after a lengthy time of low activity, I'm pleased to appoint
Daniel Gruno to the role of VP, Diversity and Inclusion. He has been
working with Christian Grobmeier (and more recently, Melissa Logan has
joined) on plans to revive the work. I look forward to seeing their work
and encourage anyone who is interested to pitch in!

Ruth

Thank you for that introduction (and trust), Ruth, I appreciate it.

It's very early days still, but I have written up a short plan or primer for 
how I want to see the EDI committee working, as well as what I'd love for us to 
try out. You can find it here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/EDI/2025+EDI+jumpstart+plan


A couple initial suggestions:

- align the various acronyms (D&I, EDI, DEI) and be consistent. EDI seems to be 
emerging as the preferred standard, but in the IT World of Acronyms, Initialisms, 
and Abbreviations, the disparity between the three can be quite confusing

I hear you, and it's made more difficult by the tension that has been growing around certain variations (whether you ascribe it to mismanagement of initiatives or not). It gets confusing and laden with presuppositions, both good and bad ones.

I was thinking of either sticking consistently with EDI as we have done, or pivot and call it IDEA (Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Access) and reframe it in a fully local foundation perspective. What do these things mean to us at the ASF and what do we want to accomplish, irrespective of the larger trends at hand.


- add a section that describes the history, purpose, and goals of EDI/DEI/D&I at the ASF. "necessity and 
benefits" are mentioned as components, but it would be good to have an overarching goal or mission 
statement, and metrics/goals for defining "success" or even just "movement towards a goal"

Agreed, but in my thinking this needs to come from the communities at the ASF and not just me writing a document, so I'd like to work on a questionnaire to send out to projects, and get a sense of what matters to them.


-Chris (fluxo)






On April 1st, I intend to do some spring cleaning of the committee structure, 
essentially doing a clean slate. I truly appreciate the work that a ton of 
people have done in (and outside) this committee already, and will welcome 
anyone who wants to stay on the committee.

I'd also like to invite any other members or committers of the foundation to 
volunteer for the committee, either by replying on this list (which is a public 
mailing list, FYI) or by sending me a private reply with your ASF username.

This isn't paid work and you may get yelled at, but if you still want to give 
it a go, maybe we can keep nudging the foundation in a more equitable, 
accessible direction[1], and in turn benefit our users.

Have a look at the jump-start plan and let me know what your thoughts are.

With regards,
Daniel.

[1] Don't take this as a jab at our current status. We are awesome,
    and we can improve because we want to be...even more awesome.


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