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On 9/26/07, marbux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Go for it David,
>
> Them what has the energy to do the work get to decide how to do it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Marbux
>
> On 9/26/07, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Guy's chill. The mag is pdf what format (portrait or landscape) will be
> > decided later on. At the moment I'm just getting the hang of Scribus.
> > And yes A4 as I live in the UK and I'm the guy doing the work on it so
> > I'm doing to my setup it's easier for me. It can always have a letter
> > format for those on the other side of the pond like Fullcicle does if
> > some one wants to create that format. The merits of PDF or HTML are
> > niether here not there I just like the idea of producing a mag for
> > OpenOffice.
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:40 +0200, Frank Peters wrote:
> > > marbux wrote:
> > > > On 9/25/07, Jean Hollis Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >> I read PDF magazines onscreen when I can (eg Linux Journal
> > > >> Digital), and only print out a few pages to keep for reference.
> > > >> Landscape orientation means a PDF works very well for both
> > > >> purposes, but portrait works well only for printouts especially
> > > >> if the design is 2-column (otherwise I have to scroll vertically
> > > >> a lot, both up and down).
> > > >>
> > > >> +1 on the vertical scrolling problem with mutli-column PDFs. I have
> > to
> > > > read a lot of them (e.g., official government journals, scientific
> > journals,
> > > > etc.) and the constant scrolling is a PITA. Particularly when they are
> > set
> > > > in small type that forces you to enlarge the type size to read, which
> > also
> > > > forces you to scroll left and right to switch columns. Landscape mode
> > with
> > > > 20 point type and appropriate margins and column gutters keeps the
> > entire
> > > > page on one screen with text at an easily legible size. Readers can
> > > > concentrate on content rather than navigation.
> > > >
> > > > The problem is that portrait mode is a poor match for the proportional
> > > > dimensions of a computer monitor. Landscape mode with a normal paper
> > size
> > > > comes close enough that margins can be adjusted to compensate for the
> > rest.
> > > >
> > > > On reasons for using PDF rather than HTML +, here are a few:
> > >
> > > > -- Variations in the ways that browsers render web pages are
> > eliminated so
> > > > the need for a whole bunch of testing in different browsers is
> > eliminated;
> > > > -- Allows use of complex formatting without testing in various
> > browsers;
> > > > -- Allows use of software designed for high-quality desktop publishing
> > > > rather than for web publishing;
> > >
> > > I don't want to get into an argument about the pros and cons of
> > > PDF publishing on the web but you're publishing to the web, not to the
> > > desktop. The web is a more flexible publishing medium with many
> > > possible user setups regarding orientation, screen size, color depth,
> > > etc. Not to mention accessibility problems with PDFs (unless you're
> > > using tagged PDF).
> > >
> > > > -- Fonts can be embedded so readers get the document designer's
> > intended
> > > > graphical effect;
> > > > -- Web and dead-tree publishing can use the same document without
> > > > reformatting;
> > >
> > > But they *need* reformatting because one format cannot satisfy all
> > channels:
> > > Web on computer screens, printouts, screen readers, small devices.
> > >
> > > You're (well not literally you :-) using landscape PDF to the advantage
> > > of screen display but to the disadvantage of printout. You even fix
> > > the paper size (A4 in Europe, letter in the US) that often causes
> > > problems on printout.  You're using a fixed width and layout that may
> > > force people with small screen resolutions to scroll the document or
> > scale it
> > > down, but to the advantage of an aesthetic printout.
> > >
> > > A see the beauty of completely controlling all visual aspects of
> > > a publication but the internet is just not the best medium for that as
> > > long as there are browsers that don't adhere to standards.
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
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