Hi Julian,

Could you take a look at the 1st (disclaimer more prominent) and 3rd
(remove forking flag) topic in the last sending, please? I may need your
confirmation to make it clear in my mind, thanks a lot!

Michael

On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:

> @Julian,
>
> (copy my reply from another thread and paste it as below)
>
> Just copy your comments here and adding my comments. Thank you for the
> suggestions.
>
> [Julian] - Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It
> is buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear in
> the first screen-full.
> [Michael] - a find an example from Apache Blur Incubating, do you mean
> something similar to its disclaimer appears on front page? Such as:
> http://incubator.apache.org/blur/.
>
> [Julian] - In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think
> you can skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but you
> must acknowledge trademarks.
> [Michael] -
> 1. in the new site doc, I have added "Apache" preceding first mention of
> "eagle" on every page, and commented the following "Eagle" on the page is
> pointing to "Apache Eagle (incubating)".
> 2. "acknowledge trademarks", do you mean the trademarks of "hadoop". If I
> understand right, the "tag line" you mentioned has been modified, it would
> never mention "Hadoop" again.
>
> [Julian] - In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right
> corner. The call to action is to join the Apache community.
> [Michael] - Not quite clear with this tip. I'm wondering, where is the
> appropriate position for us to place the "forking" element on the page? As
> least, people may contribute by firstly forking a git repository. Do you
> think the top-nav tag bar is good to add forking components?
>
>
> Thanks.
> Michael
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I added the following comments to the JIRA case:
>>
>> * Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It is
>> buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear in the
>> first screen-full.
>>
>> * Apply these guidelines throughout the site, in particular to the docs,
>> https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/.
>>
>> * In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think you can
>> skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but you must
>> acknowledge trademarks.
>>
>> * In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right corner. The
>> call to action is to join the Apache community.
>>
>> Julian
>>
>> > On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > BTW, here is a jira ticket for trying to fix this issue: EAGLE-380
>> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. It'll be thankful
>> to see
>> > your comments on it. :)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi guys,
>> >>
>> >> To my understanding on your suggestions, we could modify our docs in
>> the
>> >> following ways, please help review if they are satisfying the request:
>> >> 1. if "eagle" is in doc page title, change it to "Apache Eagle
>> >> (incubating)".
>> >> 2. if there are many "eagle"s appear in the doc page content, change
>> the
>> >> first mention of it to "Apache Eagle (incubating, called Eagle in the
>> >> following)".
>> >> 3. change logo size or position.
>> >>
>> >> Anything missed, please DO correct me. Thanks.
>> >> Michael
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Henry Saputra <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Yeah, thinking moving the link and incubator logo up in the header and
>> >>> keep
>> >>> the incubator disclaimer as footer.
>> >>>
>> >>> Also move some content in between to separate page to make visitor
>> scroll
>> >>> less for homepage.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thoughts?
>> >>>
>> >>> - Henry
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John D. Ament <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 2016-06-29 20:48 (-0400), Henry Saputra <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> Probably we could move this section to Powered By Eagle page so
>> >>> homepage
>> >>>>> could be more clear it is part of ASF and also include Incubator
>> >>>>> description on top of page.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So you're thinking about moving some of the ASF logos up, not buried
>> in
>> >>>> the footer?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016, arunkarthick m <[email protected]>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> The eBay logo and Paypal logo under who uses Eagle part is taking
>> up
>> >>>> too
>> >>>>>> much screen space. Apart from that ebay is mentioned only in one
>> >>> place.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Arun
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Check what the branding guide says. I think only the first
>> >>> occurrence
>> >>>>>>> needs to be fully-qualified.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> But also ask yourself: Does this page make it look like the
>> >>> project
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>>>> controlled by a particular company?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 1:57 PM, arunkarthick m <
>> >>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> There are lots of places where we mentioned "Eagle". We need to
>> >>>> change
>> >>>>>>> them
>> >>>>>>>> to be Apache Eagle.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>> Arun
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM, arun karthick manoharan <
>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the branding guide will send what I find.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>>>>> Arun
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Will continue to verify and update the fix.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> - Hao
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Julian Hyde <
>> >>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Did you find any other violations of branding policy?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Updated with (incubating), thanks for advising.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Julian Hyde <
>> >>>> [email protected]
>> >>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a discussion on general@incubator about podlings’
>> >>>> web
>> >>>>>>> sites
>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> URLs, and Eagle came in for some criticism. Can someone
>> >>> please
>> >>>>>>> review
>> >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site for compliance with Apache’s branding guidelines for
>> >>>>>> podlings?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, the first mention of Eagle on each page must
>> >>> be
>> >>>>>>> followed
>> >>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> “(incubating)”, and that does not happen. There may be
>> >>> other
>> >>>>>>>>> violations
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> too. During incubation we are looking to see whether the
>> >>> PPMC
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>>>>>>>> capable of
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proactively enforcing the Apache brand.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Arun Karthick
>> >>>>>>>> 201-850-9399
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Arun Karthick
>> >>>>>> 201-850-9399
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>

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