Hi there, Ticket Eagle-380 is closed, and eagle site has been updated with all the modifications. This time, in pages, we add footnotes to indicate some words representing Apache projects, such as "hadoop", "hbase", "storm", etc, and tag the corresponding footnote number at the top-right corner of these words for readers to refer to. The reason we use this approach is that it not only claims the branding of Apache, but also keeps the best readability of the entire documentation tree.
BTW, in this update, we also move Disclaimer up to the middle of the home page so that it's easier to be found. If convenient, please help review it at: https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/ and https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/. @Julian, the "fork me on github" has been removed, and we are working on the task to cite steps on readme file into development-quick-quide page. Anything missed, please do let me know. Thanks. Michael On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > I’ve replied to the JIRA ticket. Let’s move the conversation there. > > > On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:43 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > @ Julian, or you may give your further comments on ticket EAGLE-380 > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. Thanks. > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi Julian, > >> > >> Could you take a look at the 1st (disclaimer more prominent) and 3rd > >> (remove forking flag) topic in the last sending, please? I may need your > >> confirmation to make it clear in my mind, thanks a lot! > >> > >> Michael > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> @Julian, > >>> > >>> (copy my reply from another thread and paste it as below) > >>> > >>> Just copy your comments here and adding my comments. Thank you for the > >>> suggestions. > >>> > >>> [Julian] - Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. > It > >>> is buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear > in > >>> the first screen-full. > >>> [Michael] - a find an example from Apache Blur Incubating, do you mean > >>> something similar to its disclaimer appears on front page? Such as: > >>> http://incubator.apache.org/blur/. > >>> > >>> [Julian] - In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I > think > >>> you can skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but > you > >>> must acknowledge trademarks. > >>> [Michael] - > >>> 1. in the new site doc, I have added "Apache" preceding first mention > of > >>> "eagle" on every page, and commented the following "Eagle" on the page > is > >>> pointing to "Apache Eagle (incubating)". > >>> 2. "acknowledge trademarks", do you mean the trademarks of "hadoop". > If I > >>> understand right, the "tag line" you mentioned has been modified, it > would > >>> never mention "Hadoop" again. > >>> > >>> [Julian] - In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right > >>> corner. The call to action is to join the Apache community. > >>> [Michael] - Not quite clear with this tip. I'm wondering, where is the > >>> appropriate position for us to place the "forking" element on the > page? As > >>> least, people may contribute by firstly forking a git repository. Do > you > >>> think the top-nav tag bar is good to add forking components? > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks. > >>> Michael > >>> > >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I added the following comments to the JIRA case: > >>>> > >>>> * Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It is > >>>> buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear in > the > >>>> first screen-full. > >>>> > >>>> * Apply these guidelines throughout the site, in particular to the > docs, > >>>> https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/. > >>>> > >>>> * In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think you > can > >>>> skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but you > must > >>>> acknowledge trademarks. > >>>> > >>>> * In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right corner. > The > >>>> call to action is to join the Apache community. > >>>> > >>>> Julian > >>>> > >>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> BTW, here is a jira ticket for trying to fix this issue: EAGLE-380 > >>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. It'll be thankful > >>>> to see > >>>>> your comments on it. :) > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi guys, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> To my understanding on your suggestions, we could modify our docs in > >>>> the > >>>>>> following ways, please help review if they are satisfying the > request: > >>>>>> 1. if "eagle" is in doc page title, change it to "Apache Eagle > >>>>>> (incubating)". > >>>>>> 2. if there are many "eagle"s appear in the doc page content, change > >>>> the > >>>>>> first mention of it to "Apache Eagle (incubating, called Eagle in > the > >>>>>> following)". > >>>>>> 3. change logo size or position. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anything missed, please DO correct me. Thanks. > >>>>>> Michael > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Henry Saputra < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yeah, thinking moving the link and incubator logo up in the header > >>>> and > >>>>>>> keep > >>>>>>> the incubator disclaimer as footer. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also move some content in between to separate page to make visitor > >>>> scroll > >>>>>>> less for homepage. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thoughts? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - Henry > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John D. Ament < > >>>> [email protected]> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 2016-06-29 20:48 (-0400), Henry Saputra < > [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Probably we could move this section to Powered By Eagle page so > >>>>>>> homepage > >>>>>>>>> could be more clear it is part of ASF and also include Incubator > >>>>>>>>> description on top of page. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So you're thinking about moving some of the ASF logos up, not > >>>> buried in > >>>>>>>> the footer? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016, arunkarthick m < > [email protected] > >>>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The eBay logo and Paypal logo under who uses Eagle part is > taking > >>>> up > >>>>>>>> too > >>>>>>>>>> much screen space. Apart from that ebay is mentioned only in one > >>>>>>> place. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>> Arun > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Check what the branding guide says. I think only the first > >>>>>>> occurrence > >>>>>>>>>>> needs to be fully-qualified. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> But also ask yourself: Does this page make it look like the > >>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>> controlled by a particular company? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 1:57 PM, arunkarthick m < > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> There are lots of places where we mentioned "Eagle". We need > to > >>>>>>>> change > >>>>>>>>>>> them > >>>>>>>>>>>> to be Apache Eagle. > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>> Arun > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM, arun karthick manoharan < > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the branding guide will send what I find. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will continue to verify and update the fix. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Julian Hyde < > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you find any other violations of branding policy? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated with (incubating), thanks for advising. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Julian Hyde < > >>>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a discussion on general@incubator about > podlings’ > >>>>>>>> web > >>>>>>>>>>> sites > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URLs, and Eagle came in for some criticism. Can someone > >>>>>>> please > >>>>>>>>>>> review > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site for compliance with Apache’s branding guidelines for > >>>>>>>>>> podlings? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, the first mention of Eagle on each page > must > >>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>> followed > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “(incubating)”, and that does not happen. There may be > >>>>>>> other > >>>>>>>>>>>>> violations > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. During incubation we are looking to see whether the > >>>>>>> PPMC > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proactively enforcing the Apache brand. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick > >>>>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399 > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick > >>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >
