I’ve replied to the JIRA ticket. Let’s move the conversation there.
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:43 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> @ Julian, or you may give your further comments on ticket EAGLE-380
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. Thanks.
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Julian,
>>
>> Could you take a look at the 1st (disclaimer more prominent) and 3rd
>> (remove forking flag) topic in the last sending, please? I may need your
>> confirmation to make it clear in my mind, thanks a lot!
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> @Julian,
>>>
>>> (copy my reply from another thread and paste it as below)
>>>
>>> Just copy your comments here and adding my comments. Thank you for the
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> [Julian] - Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It
>>> is buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear in
>>> the first screen-full.
>>> [Michael] - a find an example from Apache Blur Incubating, do you mean
>>> something similar to its disclaimer appears on front page? Such as:
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/blur/.
>>>
>>> [Julian] - In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think
>>> you can skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but you
>>> must acknowledge trademarks.
>>> [Michael] -
>>> 1. in the new site doc, I have added "Apache" preceding first mention of
>>> "eagle" on every page, and commented the following "Eagle" on the page is
>>> pointing to "Apache Eagle (incubating)".
>>> 2. "acknowledge trademarks", do you mean the trademarks of "hadoop". If I
>>> understand right, the "tag line" you mentioned has been modified, it would
>>> never mention "Hadoop" again.
>>>
>>> [Julian] - In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right
>>> corner. The call to action is to join the Apache community.
>>> [Michael] - Not quite clear with this tip. I'm wondering, where is the
>>> appropriate position for us to place the "forking" element on the page? As
>>> least, people may contribute by firstly forking a git repository. Do you
>>> think the top-nav tag bar is good to add forking components?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I added the following comments to the JIRA case:
>>>>
>>>> * Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It is
>>>> buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should appear in the
>>>> first screen-full.
>>>>
>>>> * Apply these guidelines throughout the site, in particular to the docs,
>>>> https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/.
>>>>
>>>> * In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think you can
>>>> skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but you must
>>>> acknowledge trademarks.
>>>>
>>>> * In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right corner. The
>>>> call to action is to join the Apache community.
>>>>
>>>> Julian
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, here is a jira ticket for trying to fix this issue: EAGLE-380
>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. It'll be thankful
>>>> to see
>>>>> your comments on it. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To my understanding on your suggestions, we could modify our docs in
>>>> the
>>>>>> following ways, please help review if they are satisfying the request:
>>>>>> 1. if "eagle" is in doc page title, change it to "Apache Eagle
>>>>>> (incubating)".
>>>>>> 2. if there are many "eagle"s appear in the doc page content, change
>>>> the
>>>>>> first mention of it to "Apache Eagle (incubating, called Eagle in the
>>>>>> following)".
>>>>>> 3. change logo size or position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything missed, please DO correct me. Thanks.
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Henry Saputra <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, thinking moving the link and incubator logo up in the header
>>>> and
>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>> the incubator disclaimer as footer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also move some content in between to separate page to make visitor
>>>> scroll
>>>>>>> less for homepage.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Henry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John D. Ament <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2016-06-29 20:48 (-0400), Henry Saputra <[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Probably we could move this section to Powered By Eagle page so
>>>>>>> homepage
>>>>>>>>> could be more clear it is part of ASF and also include Incubator
>>>>>>>>> description on top of page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So you're thinking about moving some of the ASF logos up, not
>>>> buried in
>>>>>>>> the footer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016, arunkarthick m <[email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The eBay logo and Paypal logo under who uses Eagle part is taking
>>>> up
>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>> much screen space. Apart from that ebay is mentioned only in one
>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Arun
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Check what the branding guide says. I think only the first
>>>>>>> occurrence
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to be fully-qualified.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But also ask yourself: Does this page make it look like the
>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> controlled by a particular company?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 1:57 PM, arunkarthick m <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There are lots of places where we mentioned "Eagle". We need to
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be Apache Eagle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM, arun karthick manoharan <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the branding guide will send what I find.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will continue to verify and update the fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Julian Hyde <
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you find any other violations of branding policy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated with (incubating), thanks for advising.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Julian Hyde <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a discussion on general@incubator about podlings’
>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>> sites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URLs, and Eagle came in for some criticism. Can someone
>>>>>>> please
>>>>>>>>>>> review
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site for compliance with Apache’s branding guidelines for
>>>>>>>>>> podlings?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, the first mention of Eagle on each page must
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> followed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “(incubating)”, and that does not happen. There may be
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> violations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. During incubation we are looking to see whether the
>>>>>>> PPMC
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proactively enforcing the Apache brand.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick
>>>>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick
>>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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