Looking good, guys. Thanks! On Monday, August 1, 2016, Hao Chen <[email protected]> wrote:
> The twitter account (https://twitter.com/TheApacheEagle) has been updated > with http://eagle.incubator.apache.org/ now. > > Thanks > > - Hao > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > Looks much better, thanks. > > > > Someone should update the twitter account's description now that > > goeagle.io has gone away: https://twitter.com/TheApacheEagle. > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > Ticket Eagle-380 is closed, and eagle site has been updated with all > the > > > modifications. This time, in pages, we add footnotes to indicate some > > words > > > representing Apache projects, such as "hadoop", "hbase", "storm", etc, > > and > > > tag the corresponding footnote number at the top-right corner of these > > > words for readers to refer to. The reason we use this approach is that > it > > > not only claims the branding of Apache, but also keeps the best > > readability > > > of the entire documentation tree. > > > > > > BTW, in this update, we also move Disclaimer up to the middle of the > home > > > page so that it's easier to be found. > > > > > > If convenient, please help review it at: > > https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/ > > > and https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/. > > > > > > @Julian, the "fork me on github" has been removed, and we are working > on > > > the task to cite steps on readme file into development-quick-quide > page. > > > > > > > > > Anything missed, please do let me know. Thanks. > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:22 AM, Julian Hyde <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > >> I’ve replied to the JIRA ticket. Let’s move the conversation there. > > >> > > >> > On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:43 AM, Michael Wu <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > @ Julian, or you may give your further comments on ticket EAGLE-380 > > >> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. Thanks. > > >> > > > >> > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Hi Julian, > > >> >> > > >> >> Could you take a look at the 1st (disclaimer more prominent) and > 3rd > > >> >> (remove forking flag) topic in the last sending, please? I may need > > your > > >> >> confirmation to make it clear in my mind, thanks a lot! > > >> >> > > >> >> Michael > > >> >> > > >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >>> @Julian, > > >> >>> > > >> >>> (copy my reply from another thread and paste it as below) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Just copy your comments here and adding my comments. Thank you for > > the > > >> >>> suggestions. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [Julian] - Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front > > page. > > >> It > > >> >>> is buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should > > appear > > >> in > > >> >>> the first screen-full. > > >> >>> [Michael] - a find an example from Apache Blur Incubating, do you > > mean > > >> >>> something similar to its disclaimer appears on front page? Such > as: > > >> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/blur/. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [Julian] - In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I > > >> think > > >> >>> you can skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" > > but > > >> you > > >> >>> must acknowledge trademarks. > > >> >>> [Michael] - > > >> >>> 1. in the new site doc, I have added "Apache" preceding first > > mention > > >> of > > >> >>> "eagle" on every page, and commented the following "Eagle" on the > > page > > >> is > > >> >>> pointing to "Apache Eagle (incubating)". > > >> >>> 2. "acknowledge trademarks", do you mean the trademarks of > "hadoop". > > >> If I > > >> >>> understand right, the "tag line" you mentioned has been modified, > it > > >> would > > >> >>> never mention "Hadoop" again. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> [Julian] - In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top > > right > > >> >>> corner. The call to action is to join the Apache community. > > >> >>> [Michael] - Not quite clear with this tip. I'm wondering, where is > > the > > >> >>> appropriate position for us to place the "forking" element on the > > >> page? As > > >> >>> least, people may contribute by firstly forking a git repository. > Do > > >> you > > >> >>> think the top-nav tag bar is good to add forking components? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Thanks. > > >> >>> Michael > > >> >>> > > >> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>>> I added the following comments to the JIRA case: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> * Also, make the disclaimer more prominent on the front page. It > is > > >> >>>> buried at the bottom of a very long page. I think it should > appear > > in > > >> the > > >> >>>> first screen-full. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> * Apply these guidelines throughout the site, in particular to > the > > >> docs, > > >> >>>> https://eagle.incubator.apache.org/docs/. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> * In the docs, qualify all Apache projects with Apache. I think > you > > >> can > > >> >>>> skip "Apache" in the tag line "Secure Hadoop in real time" but > you > > >> must > > >> >>>> acknowledge trademarks. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> * In the docs, remove "fork me on github" from the top right > > corner. > > >> The > > >> >>>> call to action is to join the Apache community. > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> Julian > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Michael Wu <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> > > wrote: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> BTW, here is a jira ticket for trying to fix this issue: > EAGLE-380 > > >> >>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/EAGLE-380>. It'll be > > thankful > > >> >>>> to see > > >> >>>>> your comments on it. :) > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Michael Wu < > [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Hi guys, > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> To my understanding on your suggestions, we could modify our > > docs in > > >> >>>> the > > >> >>>>>> following ways, please help review if they are satisfying the > > >> request: > > >> >>>>>> 1. if "eagle" is in doc page title, change it to "Apache Eagle > > >> >>>>>> (incubating)". > > >> >>>>>> 2. if there are many "eagle"s appear in the doc page content, > > change > > >> >>>> the > > >> >>>>>> first mention of it to "Apache Eagle (incubating, called Eagle > in > > >> the > > >> >>>>>> following)". > > >> >>>>>> 3. change logo size or position. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> Anything missed, please DO correct me. Thanks. > > >> >>>>>> Michael > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:05 PM, Henry Saputra < > > >> >>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> Yeah, thinking moving the link and incubator logo up in the > > header > > >> >>>> and > > >> >>>>>>> keep > > >> >>>>>>> the incubator disclaimer as footer. > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> Also move some content in between to separate page to make > > visitor > > >> >>>> scroll > > >> >>>>>>> less for homepage. > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> Thoughts? > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> - Henry > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 6:31 PM, John D. Ament < > > >> >>>> [email protected] <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> On 2016-06-29 20:48 (-0400), Henry Saputra < > > >> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>> Probably we could move this section to Powered By Eagle page > > so > > >> >>>>>>> homepage > > >> >>>>>>>>> could be more clear it is part of ASF and also include > > Incubator > > >> >>>>>>>>> description on top of page. > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> So you're thinking about moving some of the ASF logos up, not > > >> >>>> buried in > > >> >>>>>>>> the footer? > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 30, 2016, arunkarthick m < > > >> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> The eBay logo and Paypal logo under who uses Eagle part is > > >> taking > > >> >>>> up > > >> >>>>>>>> too > > >> >>>>>>>>>> much screen space. Apart from that ebay is mentioned only > in > > one > > >> >>>>>>> place. > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Arun > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Julian Hyde < > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Check what the branding guide says. I think only the first > > >> >>>>>>> occurrence > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> needs to be fully-qualified. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> But also ask yourself: Does this page make it look like > the > > >> >>>>>>> project > > >> >>>>>>>> is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> controlled by a particular company? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 1:57 PM, arunkarthick m < > > >> >>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are lots of places where we mentioned "Eagle". We > > need > > >> to > > >> >>>>>>>> change > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> them > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> to be Apache Eagle. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Arun > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:52 AM, arun karthick > manoharan < > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the branding guide will send what I find. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arun > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Hao Chen <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will continue to verify and update the fix. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Julian Hyde < > > >> >>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you find any other violations of branding policy? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Hao Chen < > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Updated with (incubating), thanks for advising. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Hao > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Julian Hyde < > > >> >>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a discussion on general@incubator about > > >> podlings’ > > >> >>>>>>>> web > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> sites > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> URLs, and Eagle came in for some criticism. Can > > someone > > >> >>>>>>> please > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> review > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> site for compliance with Apache’s branding > guidelines > > for > > >> >>>>>>>>>> podlings? > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For instance, the first mention of Eagle on each > page > > >> must > > >> >>>>>>> be > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> followed > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “(incubating)”, and that does not happen. There may > be > > >> >>>>>>> other > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> violations > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. During incubation we are looking to see whether > > the > > >> >>>>>>> PPMC > > >> >>>>>>>> is > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> capable of > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proactively enforcing the Apache brand. > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick > > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399 > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>>> -- > > >> >>>>>>>>>> Arun Karthick > > >> >>>>>>>>>> 201-850-9399 > > >> >>>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >
