Hi Joshua,

Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better.

Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI

On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:

> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in
> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is short,
> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon <
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> > On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <deeplyscott...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
> >
> > Joshua Poore
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Joshua,
> >>
> >> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
> >>
> >> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
> >> elaborating  how has the community/project developed since the last
> report
> >> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
> >> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
> >>
> >> Kind Regards,
> >> Furkan KAMACI
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Dave,
> >>>
> >>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>>
> >>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey Joshua,
> >>>>
> >>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling
> >>> report today at
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
> >>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that
> question
> >>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a
> >>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in
> >>> CY2021 Q2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the
> >>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all
> >>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :)
> ).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
> >>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some
> >>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the
> way.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
> >>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
> >>> committer base very soon.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was
> clear
> >>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there
> are
> >>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to
> >>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re
> seeing?
> >>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note
> from
> >>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> poorejc
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org
> >>> <mailto:poor...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to
> graduate
> >>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of
> >>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left
> this
> >>> alone for a while.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from
> the
> >>> Incubator (summarized here
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation <
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>).
> >>> Most of those are covered now.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I
> >>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
> >>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party
> distros
> >>> (like NPM).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a
> university),
> >>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
> >>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see
> this
> >>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base,
> which
> >>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this
> area.
> >>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lewi...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>>>>>>> To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>> gene...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <mailto:dev@flagon.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>> gene...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi general@,
> >>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor
> of
> >>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago!
> This
> >>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
> >>> SensSoft!!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>> <
> >>>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
> >>> Flagon)
> >>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
> >>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution
> thread
> >>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
> >>> general@incubator
> >>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
> >>> resolution
> >>>>>>>> follows
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>>>>>    interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>>>>    Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>    Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>>>>>    open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>>>>>>>    the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging
> capability
> >>>>>>>>    useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>    user testing.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>    Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>>>>>>>    be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>>>>>    Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>    responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>>>>>    related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>>>>>    useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>    user testing, and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>>>>>>>    and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>>>>>>>    serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>>>>>>>    of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary
> responsibility
> >>>>>>>>    for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>>>>>>>    responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>>>>>    hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>>>>>    Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Joshua Poore  <poor...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> poor...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Lewis John McGibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lewi...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Laura Mariano <lmari...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> lmari...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Clayton Gimenez <cgime...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> cgime...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Alex Ford <af...@apache.org <mailto:af...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Steve York <pyk...@apache.org <mailto:pyk...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Michelle Beard <msbe...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>> msbe...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>      * Robert Foley <r...@apache.org <mailto:r...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>>>>>>>    be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to
> >>>>>>>>    serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>>>>>>>    Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>>>>>>>    death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>>>>>>>    or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>    tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>>>>>    encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>>>>>    Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>>>>>>>    is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>>>>>    Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>    RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>>>>>    Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>>>>    Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <
> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
>
>

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