Great, thanks Furkan! Again, great feedback. Other MENTORS: any other short turn feedback? Please remember that it needs to be signed ASAP (I think needs be submitted to ASF on 4/15)
Thanks all! > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Joshua, > > Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better. > > Kind Regards, > Furkan KAMACI > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in >> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is short, >> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon < >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Josh >> >>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <deeplyscott...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report. >>> >>> Joshua Poore >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Joshua, >>>> >>>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion. >>>> >>>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However, >>>> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last >> report >>>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be >>>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Furkan KAMACI >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dave, >>>>> >>>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience. >>>>> >>>>> Josh >>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Joshua, >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their Podling >>>>> report today at >>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any >>>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that >> question >>>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for a >>>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this in >>>>> CY2021 Q2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up the >>>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed all >>>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) >> ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> >> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit. >>>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting some >>>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on the >> way. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and >>>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the >>>>> committer base very soon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was >> clear >>>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there >> are >>>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets to >>>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re >> seeing? >>>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note >> from >>>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> poorejc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:poor...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to >> graduate >>>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch of >>>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left >> this >>>>> alone for a while. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from >> the >>>>> Incubator (summarized here >>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation < >>>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation>). >>>>> Most of those are covered now. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release candidate I >>>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release >>>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party >> distros >>>>> (like NPM). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a >> university), >>>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and >>>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to see >> this >>>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, >> which >>>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this >> area. >>>>> So, I’m all for it (+1). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP >>>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT >>>>>>>>>> To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto: >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <mailto:dev@flagon.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto: >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi general@, >>>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in favor >> of >>>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! >> This >>>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name >>>>> SensSoft!!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E >>>>> < >>>>> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft --> >>>>> Flagon) >>>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list < >>>>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>] >>>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution >> thread >>>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the >>>>> general@incubator >>>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The >>>>> resolution >>>>>>>>>> follows >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to >>>>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging >> capability >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and >>>>>>>>>> user testing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project", >>>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is >>>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and >>>>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be >>>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary >> responsibility >>>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> poor...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmari...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> lmari...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgime...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> cgime...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <af...@apache.org <mailto:af...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Steve York <pyk...@apache.org <mailto:pyk...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbe...@apache.org <mailto: >>>>> msbe...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <r...@apache.org <mailto:r...@apache.org>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore >>>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, to >>>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby >>>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>>>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ < >> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/> >>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>
