Hi Joshua, It looks like a detailed report, and I think the update on the community side you did helps.
Signing it now. Cheers, Dave On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 20:16, Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid> wrote: > Great, thanks Furkan! Again, great feedback. > > Other MENTORS: any other short turn feedback? Please remember that it > needs to be signed ASAP (I think needs be submitted to ASF on 4/15) > > Thanks all! > > > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi Joshua, > > > > Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better. > > > > Kind Regards, > > Furkan KAMACI > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in > >> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is > short, > >> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made: > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon > < > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Josh > >> > >>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <deeplyscott...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report. > >>> > >>> Joshua Poore > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Joshua, > >>>> > >>>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion. > >>>> > >>>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However, > >>>> elaborating how has the community/project developed since the last > >> report > >>>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be > >>>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC. > >>>> > >>>> Kind Regards, > >>>> Furkan KAMACI > >>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid > > > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Dave, > >>>>> > >>>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience. > >>>>> > >>>>> Josh > >>>>> > >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hey Joshua, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their > Podling > >>>>> report today at > >>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Dave > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote: > >>>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any > >>>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that > >> question > >>>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for > a > >>>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this > in > >>>>> CY2021 Q2. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up > the > >>>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed > all > >>>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :) > >> ). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Josh > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit. > >>>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting > some > >>>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on > the > >> way. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and > >>>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the > >>>>> committer base very soon. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was > >> clear > >>>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there > >> are > >>>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets > to > >>>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re > >> seeing? > >>>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note > >> from > >>>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate > :) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> poorejc > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org > >>>>> <mailto:poor...@apache.org>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to > >> graduate > >>>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch > of > >>>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left > >> this > >>>>> alone for a while. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from > >> the > >>>>> Incubator (summarized here > >>>>> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation > < > >>>>> > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation > >). > >>>>> Most of those are covered now. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release > candidate I > >>>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release > >>>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party > >> distros > >>>>> (like NPM). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a > >> university), > >>>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and > >>>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to > see > >> this > >>>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base, > >> which > >>>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this > >> area. > >>>>> So, I’m all for it (+1). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Josh > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP > >>>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT > >>>>>>>>>> To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <mailto:dev@flagon.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi general@, > >>>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in > favor > >> of > >>>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago! > >> This > >>>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name > >>>>> SensSoft!!! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E > >>>>> < > >>>>> > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft --> > >>>>> Flagon) > >>>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [ > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list < > >>>>> > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>] > >>>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution > >> thread > >>>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the > >>>>> general@incubator > >>>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The > >>>>> resolution > >>>>>>>>>> follows > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > >>>>>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > >>>>>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > >>>>>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > >>>>>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > >>>>>>>>>> the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging > >> capability > >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and > >>>>>>>>>> user testing. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > >>>>>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project", > >>>>>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > >>>>>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is > >>>>>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > >>>>>>>>>> related to thin-client behavioral logging capability > >>>>>>>>>> useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and > >>>>>>>>>> user testing, and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be > >>>>>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > >>>>>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > >>>>>>>>>> of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary > >> responsibility > >>>>>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of > >>>>>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > >>>>>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> poor...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Lewis John McGibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Laura Mariano <lmari...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> lmari...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Clayton Gimenez <cgime...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> cgime...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Alex Ford <af...@apache.org <mailto:af...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Steve York <pyk...@apache.org <mailto:pyk...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Michelle Beard <msbe...@apache.org <mailto: > >>>>> msbe...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> * Robert Foley <r...@apache.org <mailto:r...@apache.org>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore > >>>>>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon, > to > >>>>>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > >>>>>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > >>>>>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > >>>>>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is > >>>>>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > >>>>>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the > >>>>>>>>>> Apache Flagon Project; and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby > >>>>>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > >>>>>>>>>> Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > >>>>>>>>>> Project are hereafter discharged. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ < > >> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/> > >>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >> > >> > >