Hi Joshua,

It looks like a detailed report, and I think the update on the community
side you did helps.

Signing it now.

Cheers,
Dave

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 at 20:16, Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid> wrote:

> Great, thanks Furkan! Again, great feedback.
>
> Other MENTORS: any other short turn feedback? Please remember that it
> needs to be signed ASAP (I think needs be submitted to ASF on 4/15)
>
> Thanks all!
>
> > On Apr 12, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joshua,
> >
> > Thanks for the detailed report! This version is much better.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Furkan KAMACI
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 4:17 PM Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Following Furkan’s suggestions, I’ve added some flavor to the report in
> >> #contributor and #project fields. Adding metrics now. Given time is
> short,
> >> just giving everyone a heads up that mods have/are being made:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> <
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Josh
> >>
> >>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:44 PM, Joshua Poore <deeplyscott...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Great feedback, Furkan. I’ll add more depth to the report.
> >>>
> >>> Joshua Poore
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 9:31 AM, Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Joshua,
> >>>>
> >>>> It's great you've pinged for the graduation discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>> By the way, thanks for filling the report. I've signed it. However,
> >>>> elaborating  how has the community/project developed since the last
> >> report
> >>>> part could be nice. You can add some metrics there. Also, it may be
> >>>> worth mentioning that the last elected person was Committer and PPMC.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>> Furkan KAMACI
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 4:25 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The report is up on on the Wiki. Thanks for the patience.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hey Joshua,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Good to see this. It would be great for Flagon to submit their
> Podling
> >>>>> report today at
> >>>>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/April2021#flagon
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2021/04/08 02:58:39, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> It would be great to have some discussion about Graduating. Any
> >>>>> thoughts about TLP vs. joining another project. Beyond answer that
> >> question
> >>>>> (given new projects like Superset), we’ve been ready to graduate for
> a
> >>>>> while IMHO, despite having a small community. We should move on this
> in
> >>>>> CY2021 Q2.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If nothing else heard in one more week, I think we should pick up
> the
> >>>>> vote we started on the IPMC mailing list in CY2020 Q4. We addressed
> all
> >>>>> those actions (less more active community discussion on graduating :)
> >> ).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2021, at 9:50 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I’m not sure if you’re aware but UserALE.js is lighting up a bit.
> >>>>> We’ve gotten some really incredible PRs recently and we’re getting
> some
> >>>>> attention from new and existing users—I hear more contributions on
> the
> >> way.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> IMHO this is a good time to Graduate. The project is healthy and
> >>>>> modernized and I suspect we’ll see some real organic growth in the
> >>>>> committer base very soon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> @Mentors any thoughts? When last we discussed graduating it was
> >> clear
> >>>>> that we should be our own TLP. I can get behind that. However, there
> >> are
> >>>>> new projects like Apache Superset that might be interesting targets
> to
> >>>>> explore graduating into. Any advice on that front, given what we’re
> >> seeing?
> >>>>> Anyone else in the community have thoughts at this point? Last note
> >> from
> >>>>> IPMC made it clear that they would certainly like to see us graduate
> :)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> poorejc
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2021, at 9:25 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org
> >>>>> <mailto:poor...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> If you all recall back in 2018 we actually started voting to
> >> graduate
> >>>>> from the Incubator. There was a shake up in our team due to a bunch
> of
> >>>>> people leaving certain orgs all at the same time and we kind of left
> >> this
> >>>>> alone for a while.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @lewis raised this issue last quarter. We had a few actions from
> >> the
> >>>>> Incubator (summarized here
> >>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation
> <
> >>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/Incubator+Graduation
> >).
> >>>>> Most of those are covered now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Some of those actions are covered in the latest release
> candidate I
> >>>>> just pushed to vote (Flagon UserALE.js 2.1.1), which put our release
> >>>>> processes and artifacts in compliance with ASF policy on 3rd party
> >> distros
> >>>>> (like NPM).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Let’s pick up the discussion on Graduation:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> My feeling after a big job change recently (i’m not at a
> >> university),
> >>>>> I think it will be much easier for me to foster community growth and
> >>>>> participation in the project. I’m ready for this and would like to
> see
> >> this
> >>>>> done. We’re a little project, but we have a pretty stable user base,
> >> which
> >>>>> I work with regularly. Likely, I’ll be doing more funded work in this
> >> area.
> >>>>> So, I’m all for it (+1).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who’s with me? Ready to be official ASF members?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Josh
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From: lewis john mcgibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Proposed Resolution: Establish Apache Flagon TLP
> >>>>>>>>>> Date: September 20, 2020 at 3:11:14 PM EDT
> >>>>>>>>>> To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: dev@flagon.apache.org <mailto:dev@flagon.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: gene...@incubator.apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> gene...@incubator.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hi general@,
> >>>>>>>>>> I just realized that the Flagon community already VOTE'd in
> favor
> >> of
> >>>>>>>>>> graduating the project from the Incubator quite some time ago!
> >> This
> >>>>>>>>>> happened in May 2018 when the project was under the former name
> >>>>> SensSoft!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/8fc3d752a4000b461fd7e8afd45b916025cc2b16bae52d65ca5a3083%40%3Cdev.senssoft.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Since then the project has undergone a name change (SensSoft -->
> >>>>> Flagon)
> >>>>>>>>>> and made several releases. Going by the Graduation Check List [
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list <
> >>>>>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#graduation_check_list>]
> >>>>>>>>>> it looks like the next step is to create a Proposed Resolution
> >> thread
> >>>>>>>>>> (which will be followed by a formal VOTE) here on the
> >>>>> general@incubator
> >>>>>>>>>> such that the graduation resolution can be scrutinized. The
> >>>>> resolution
> >>>>>>>>>> follows
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The draft of the resolution:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Establish the Apache Flagon Project
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >>>>>>>>>>   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >>>>>>>>>>   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>>>   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >>>>>>>>>>   open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >>>>>>>>>>   the public, related to thin-client behavioral logging
> >> capability
> >>>>>>>>>>   useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>>>   user testing.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >>>>>>>>>>   Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Flagon Project",
> >>>>>>>>>>   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >>>>>>>>>>   Foundation; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>>>   responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >>>>>>>>>>   related to thin-client behavioral logging capability
> >>>>>>>>>>   useful for business analytics, usage analytics, usability and
> >>>>>>>>>>   user testing, and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Flagon be
> >>>>>>>>>>   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >>>>>>>>>>   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >>>>>>>>>>   of the Apache Flagon Project, and to have primary
> >> responsibility
> >>>>>>>>>>   for management of the projects within the scope of
> >>>>>>>>>>   responsibility of the Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >>>>>>>>>>   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >>>>>>>>>>   Apache Flagon Project:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Joshua Poore  <poor...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> poor...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Lewis John McGibbney <lewi...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lewi...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Laura Mariano <lmari...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> lmari...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Clayton Gimenez <cgime...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> cgime...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Alex Ford <af...@apache.org <mailto:af...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Steve York <pyk...@apache.org <mailto:pyk...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Michelle Beard <msbe...@apache.org <mailto:
> >>>>> msbe...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>     * Robert Foley <r...@apache.org <mailto:r...@apache.org>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Joshua Poore
> >>>>>>>>>>   be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Flagon,
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>   serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >>>>>>>>>>   Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until
> >>>>>>>>>>   death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification,
> >>>>>>>>>>   or until a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Flagon PMC be and hereby is
> >>>>>>>>>>   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >>>>>>>>>>   encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >>>>>>>>>>   Apache Flagon Project; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that the Apache Flagon Project be and hereby
> >>>>>>>>>>   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>   Incubator Flagon podling; and be it further
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>   Incubator Flagon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
> >>>>>>>>>>   Project are hereafter discharged.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/ <
> >> http://home.apache.org/~lewismc/>
> >>>>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lewismc
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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