Austin—

By the way, you’ve been involved in the community for some time and have 
participated in VOTEs. If you’re interested in becoming PPMC (hopefully soon 
PMC—I *REALLY* want to Graduate soon) feel free to reach out to discuss 
expectations (poor...@apache.org <mailto:poor...@apache.org>). I’d be willing 
to sponsor a VOTE for you to become an Apache Committer and Flagon PPMC member. 
This thread isn’t the right place to discuss, though.

> On May 10, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Austin,
> 
> Because we’re still a podling, PPMC (Podling Project Management Committee) 
> VOTEs don’t count toward releases RE Apache release guideline. Think of 
> Podlings as smaller projects under the larger “Incubator” project. We need +3 
> IPMC (Incubator Podline Management Committee) VOTES to pass release VOTES 
> (and more +1 and -1). That doesn’t mean that “community” VOTEs — PPMC, 
> Committer, and anyone on Dev—don’t count for anything. Still appreciated at 
> the IPMC level. 
> 
> As it stands we have +1 Binding VOTEs toward release and will need to rally 
> at the IPMC level. Furkan and our mentors are all IPMC.
> 
> Apologies for the delay in the release VOTE. I should have delegated earlier 
> in light of havoc at home.
> 
>> On May 7, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Austin Bennett <whatwouldausti...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Furkan,
>> 
>> Trying to understand the process, esp. understand PPMC, IPMC, and mentor
>> distinction.  I see you as a mentor [1], and look like for someone to be a
>> mentor, they must be  IPMC which you are [2] .
>> 
>> These comments are to understand ASF Process, and to ensure there are docs
>> ( perhaps I'm failing to find, as I've only done a cursory search thus far
>> ).
>> 
>> According to [3] "The only time when a PPMC member’s vote is binding is for
>> the addition of new PPMC members and committers. Release votes are only
>> binding for IPMC members." ... so that seems like for a release the only
>> binding vote cast has been @Furkam.  As I see it [2], Gedd Johnson and
>> Joshua Poore are committers ( not PMC ) of the incubator, so wouldn't cast
>> binding votes?
>> 
>> Though, that also seems strange.  So, can you help me understand the
>> process?  As I am likely missing some docs/info somewhere?  Or, perhaps I'm
>> misunderstanding the acronyms.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Austin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1]  https://incubator.apache.org/projects/flagon.html
>> 
>> [2] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
>> 
>> [3] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#ppmc_and_binding_votes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:26 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> We have 3 binding votes (Joshua Poore, Gedd Johnson, Furkan KAMACI) and 1
>>> non-binding vote (Austin Bennett).
>>> 
>>> So, the vote has passed in terms of the ASF rules.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Furkan KAMACI
>>> 
>>> On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 3:21 AM Austin Bennett <whatwouldausti...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> At least 72 hours have passed :-)
>>>> 
>>>> But ...  doesn't look like received 3 +1 votes from PPMC; was there
>>> enough
>>>> for this to pass?  I can look up but don't recall off head the incubating
>>>> project guidelines.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 3:52 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is this voting closed or not?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Furkan KAMACI
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 10:04 PM Austin Bennett <
>>>>> whatwouldausti...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Based on what has been checked, it looks good to me, so +1 (
>>>> non-binding
>>>>>> ).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A process questions to ensure things get covered, long term:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> * is there a concrete list for things actually desired to be checked
>>> as
>>>>>> part of release process ( I see some things, ex:
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon/tree/master/release and
>>>> some
>>>>>> info https://flagon.incubator.apache.org/releases/ and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/UserALE.js+Release+Management+Procedure
>>>>>> but not an actual list of things we want to ensure are covered by a
>>>>> machine
>>>>>> or human )?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, I don't recall -- Does the project have a targeted release
>>> cycle
>>>> (
>>>>>> ex: every month, quarter, etc ), or just cutting releases as desired?
>>>>> That
>>>>>> might help inform what all checks are worth automating.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:43 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid
>>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bump!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.INVALID
>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Reminder! Please VOTE for this release!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Joshua Poore
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Furkan KAMACI <
>>>> furkankam...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I checked:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Incubating in name
>>>>>>>>> - DISCLAIMER exists
>>>>>>>>> - LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
>>>>>>>>> - No unexpected binary files
>>>>>>>>> - Checked PGP signatures
>>>>>>>>> - Checked checksums
>>>>>>>>> - Code compiles and tests successfully run
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Furkan KAMACI
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:54 PM Joshua Poore <
>>>> poor...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> REMINDER PPMC, Mentors—please don’t forget to VOTE for this
>>>>> release!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This release contains some great PR work from our community!!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Gedd Johnson <
>>>> uncleg...@apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [x] +1, let's get it released!!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Integration Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
>>> File
>>>>>> Names
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
>>> Binary
>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> Incubator
>>>>>>>>>>> Policy
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers
>>>>>>>>>>> [x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> - Gedd Johnson
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 12:38 PM Joshua Poore <
>>>> poor...@apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (PPMC)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Integration Tests Pass (Example Page, Webpack (NPM),
>>>> React
>>>>>>> (NPM)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
>>>> File
>>>>>>> Names
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
>>>> Binary
>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] New source code (React app, OpenTelemetry Ex) has
>>>>> compatible
>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses (ALv2, MIT)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers (ran RAT
>>> tool:
>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> .gitignore and .babelrc (json) exclude headers)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages (except for
>>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>>>>>>> .png files)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Joshua Poore <
>>> poor...@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please VOTE on the Apache Flagon (Incubating) UserALE.js
>>> 2.3.0
>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>> Candidate # 01.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> About Flagon: http://flagon.incubator.apache.org/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This Minor release includes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes issue in autostart configurations and start(), stop()
>>>>> export
>>>>>>>>>> usage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds additional unit tests for autostart configurations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds React App.js example/test utility
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds additional examples (non-user log examples)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minor updates to update deprecated downstream dev
>>> dependencies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minor changes to documentation, updated examples
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resolved issues:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/projects/9
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Git source tag (566b279;
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/releases/tag/2.3.0-RC-01
>>>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staging repo:
>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/flagon/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source Release Artifacts:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/flagon/apache-flagon-useralejs-incubating-2.3.0-RC-01/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP release keys (signed using F9374FAE3FCADF6E):
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/flagon/KEYS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to Successful CI Build:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/runs/5958813955
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reference to the UserALE.js testing framework to assist in
>>>> your
>>>>>> unit
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> integration tests:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/UserALE.js+Release+Management+Procedure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Integration Tests Pass (Example Page, Webpack (NPM),
>>>> React
>>>>>>> (NPM)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
>>>>> File
>>>>>>> Names
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
>>>> Binary
>>>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with
>>> ASF
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] New source code (React app, OpenTelemetry Ex) have
>>>>>> compatible
>>>>>>>>>>>> licenses (ALv2, MIT)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers (ran RAT
>>> tool:
>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> .gitignore and .babelrc (json) exclude headers)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages (except for
>>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>>>>>>> .png files)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1, let's get it released!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +/-0, fine, but consider to fix few issues before...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1, nope, because... (and please explain why)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Along with your VOTE, please indicate testing and checks
>>>> you've
>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>>>> against build artifacts, src, and documentation:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Integration Tests Pass
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
>>>> File
>>>>>>> Names
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
>>> Binary
>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to everyone that is able to VOTE as well as
>>> everyone
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed to Apache Flagon UserALE.js 2.3.0!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> 

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