Hi Austin,

Ahh, I thought that Joshua and Gedd are also IPMC.

Only Incubator PMC votes are binding. So, voting is still open.

Kind Regards,
Furkan KAMACI

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 12:43 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:

> Austin—
>
> By the way, you’ve been involved in the community for some time and have
> participated in VOTEs. If you’re interested in becoming PPMC (hopefully
> soon PMC—I *REALLY* want to Graduate soon) feel free to reach out to
> discuss expectations (poor...@apache.org <mailto:poor...@apache.org>).
> I’d be willing to sponsor a VOTE for you to become an Apache Committer and
> Flagon PPMC member. This thread isn’t the right place to discuss, though.
>
> > On May 10, 2022, at 5:10 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Austin,
> >
> > Because we’re still a podling, PPMC (Podling Project Management
> Committee) VOTEs don’t count toward releases RE Apache release guideline.
> Think of Podlings as smaller projects under the larger “Incubator” project.
> We need +3 IPMC (Incubator Podline Management Committee) VOTES to pass
> release VOTES (and more +1 and -1). That doesn’t mean that “community”
> VOTEs — PPMC, Committer, and anyone on Dev—don’t count for anything. Still
> appreciated at the IPMC level.
> >
> > As it stands we have +1 Binding VOTEs toward release and will need to
> rally at the IPMC level. Furkan and our mentors are all IPMC.
> >
> > Apologies for the delay in the release VOTE. I should have delegated
> earlier in light of havoc at home.
> >
> >> On May 7, 2022, at 10:11 PM, Austin Bennett <
> whatwouldausti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Furkan,
> >>
> >> Trying to understand the process, esp. understand PPMC, IPMC, and mentor
> >> distinction.  I see you as a mentor [1], and look like for someone to
> be a
> >> mentor, they must be  IPMC which you are [2] .
> >>
> >> These comments are to understand ASF Process, and to ensure there are
> docs
> >> ( perhaps I'm failing to find, as I've only done a cursory search thus
> far
> >> ).
> >>
> >> According to [3] "The only time when a PPMC member’s vote is binding is
> for
> >> the addition of new PPMC members and committers. Release votes are only
> >> binding for IPMC members." ... so that seems like for a release the only
> >> binding vote cast has been @Furkam.  As I see it [2], Gedd Johnson and
> >> Joshua Poore are committers ( not PMC ) of the incubator, so wouldn't
> cast
> >> binding votes?
> >>
> >> Though, that also seems strange.  So, can you help me understand the
> >> process?  As I am likely missing some docs/info somewhere?  Or, perhaps
> I'm
> >> misunderstanding the acronyms.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Austin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]  https://incubator.apache.org/projects/flagon.html
> >>
> >> [2] http://home.apache.org/phonebook.html?pmc=incubator
> >>
> >> [3]
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#ppmc_and_binding_votes
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 5:26 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We have 3 binding votes (Joshua Poore, Gedd Johnson, Furkan KAMACI)
> and 1
> >>> non-binding vote (Austin Bennett).
> >>>
> >>> So, the vote has passed in terms of the ASF rules.
> >>>
> >>> Kind Regards,
> >>> Furkan KAMACI
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 3:21 AM Austin Bennett <
> whatwouldausti...@gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At least 72 hours have passed :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> But ...  doesn't look like received 3 +1 votes from PPMC; was there
> >>> enough
> >>>> for this to pass?  I can look up but don't recall off head the
> incubating
> >>>> project guidelines.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, May 7, 2022 at 3:52 PM Furkan KAMACI <furkankam...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this voting closed or not?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>> Furkan KAMACI
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 10:04 PM Austin Bennett <
> >>>>> whatwouldausti...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Based on what has been checked, it looks good to me, so +1 (
> >>>> non-binding
> >>>>>> ).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A process questions to ensure things get covered, long term:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> * is there a concrete list for things actually desired to be checked
> >>> as
> >>>>>> part of release process ( I see some things, ex:
> >>>>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon/tree/master/release and
> >>>> some
> >>>>>> info https://flagon.incubator.apache.org/releases/ and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/UserALE.js+Release+Management+Procedure
> >>>>>> but not an actual list of things we want to ensure are covered by a
> >>>>> machine
> >>>>>> or human )?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, I don't recall -- Does the project have a targeted release
> >>> cycle
> >>>> (
> >>>>>> ex: every month, quarter, etc ), or just cutting releases as
> desired?
> >>>>> That
> >>>>>> might help inform what all checks are worth automating.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:43 AM Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.invalid
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bump!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2022, at 1:32 PM, Joshua Poore <poor...@me.com.INVALID
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Reminder! Please VOTE for this release!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Joshua Poore
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 5:16 PM, Furkan KAMACI <
> >>>> furkankam...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> +1 from me.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I checked:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> - Incubating in name
> >>>>>>>>> - DISCLAIMER exists
> >>>>>>>>> - LICENSE and NOTICE are fine
> >>>>>>>>> - No unexpected binary files
> >>>>>>>>> - Checked PGP signatures
> >>>>>>>>> - Checked checksums
> >>>>>>>>> - Code compiles and tests successfully run
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>>>>>> Furkan KAMACI
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:54 PM Joshua Poore <
> >>>> poor...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> REMINDER PPMC, Mentors—please don’t forget to VOTE for this
> >>>>> release!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This release contains some great PR work from our community!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Gedd Johnson <
> >>>> uncleg...@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x] +1, let's get it released!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Integration Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
> >>> File
> >>>>>> Names
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
> >>> Binary
> >>>>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> Incubator
> >>>>>>>>>>> Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers
> >>>>>>>>>>> [x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Gedd Johnson
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 12:38 PM Joshua Poore <
> >>>> poor...@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 (PPMC)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I checked:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Integration Tests Pass (Example Page, Webpack (NPM),
> >>>> React
> >>>>>>> (NPM)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
> >>>> File
> >>>>>>> Names
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
> >>>> Binary
> >>>>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] New source code (React app, OpenTelemetry Ex) has
> >>>>> compatible
> >>>>>>>>>>>> licenses (ALv2, MIT)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers (ran RAT
> >>> tool:
> >>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .gitignore and .babelrc (json) exclude headers)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages (except for
> >>>>>>> supporting
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .png files)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2022, at 1:36 PM, Joshua Poore <
> >>> poor...@apache.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please VOTE on the Apache Flagon (Incubating) UserALE.js
> >>> 2.3.0
> >>>>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Candidate # 01.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> About Flagon: http://flagon.incubator.apache.org/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This Minor release includes:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes issue in autostart configurations and start(), stop()
> >>>>> export
> >>>>>>>>>> usage
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds additional unit tests for autostart configurations
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds React App.js example/test utility
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adds additional examples (non-user log examples)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Minor updates to update deprecated downstream dev
> >>> dependencies
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Minor changes to documentation, updated examples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Resolved issues:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/projects/9
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Git source tag (566b279;
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/releases/tag/2.3.0-RC-01
> >>>>>>>>>>>> )
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Staging repo:
> >>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/flagon/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Source Release Artifacts:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/flagon/apache-flagon-useralejs-incubating-2.3.0-RC-01/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PGP release keys (signed using F9374FAE3FCADF6E):
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/flagon/KEYS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to Successful CI Build:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-flagon-useralejs/runs/5958813955
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Reference to the UserALE.js testing framework to assist in
> >>>> your
> >>>>>> unit
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> integration tests:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLAGON/UserALE.js+Release+Management+Procedure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Integration Tests Pass (Example Page, Webpack (NPM),
> >>>> React
> >>>>>>> (NPM)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
> >>>>> File
> >>>>>>> Names
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
> >>>> Binary
> >>>>>>>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with
> >>> ASF
> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] New source code (React app, OpenTelemetry Ex) have
> >>>>>> compatible
> >>>>>>>>>>>> licenses (ALv2, MIT)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers (ran RAT
> >>> tool:
> >>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .gitignore and .babelrc (json) exclude headers)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ x ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages (except for
> >>>>>>> supporting
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .png files)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote will be open for 72 hours. Please VOTE as follows:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +1, let's get it released!!!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] +/-0, fine, but consider to fix few issues before...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] -1, nope, because... (and please explain why)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Along with your VOTE, please indicate testing and checks
> >>>> you've
> >>>>>> made
> >>>>>>>>>>>> against build artifacts, src, and documentation:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Build and Unit Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Integration Tests Pass
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] "Incubating" in References to Project and Distribution
> >>>> File
> >>>>>>> Names
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] Signatures and Hashes Match Keys
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE Files in Source and
> >>> Binary
> >>>>>>> Release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and NOTICE are consistent with ASF
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Incubator Policy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] CHANGELOG included with release distribution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] All Source Files Have Correct ASF Headers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [ ] No Binary Files in Source Release Packages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you to everyone that is able to VOTE as well as
> >>> everyone
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>> contributed to Apache Flagon UserALE.js 2.3.0!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>

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