+1 This would be very helpful!
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:15 AM Guowei Ma <guowei....@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 > > This not only helps Chinese users but also helps the community to collect > more feedback and scenarios. > > > > 在 2019年1月25日，上午2:29，Zhang, Xuefu <xuef...@alibaba-inc.com> 写道： > > > > +1 on the idea. This will certainly help promote Flink in China > industries. On a side note, it would be great if anyone in the list can > help source ideas, bug reports, and feature requests to dev@ list and/or > JIRAs so as to gain broader attention. > > > > Thanks, > > Xuefu > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From:Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> > > Sent At:2019 Jan. 24 (Thu.) 05:32 > > To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org> > > Subject:Re: [DISCUSS] Start a user...@flink.apache.org mailing list for > the Chinese-speaking community? > > > > Thanks Robert! > > I think this is a very good idea. > > +1 > > > > Fabian > > > >> Am Do., 24. Jan. 2019 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com > >: > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> Piotr Nowojski <pi...@da-platform.com> 于2019年1月24日周四 下午8:38写道： > >> > >>> +1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, > >>> committers & users :) > >>> > >>> Piotrek > >>> > >>>> On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. > >>>> > >>>> fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： > >>>> > >>>>> +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA > >>>>> permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more > developers > >>> from > >>>>> China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will > definitely > >>> be > >>>>> helpful for the growth of Flink in China. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： > >>>>>> > >>>>>> +1, a very nice idea > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger < > rmetz...@apache.org > >>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks for your response. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the > >>> mailing > >>>>>>> list's name! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < > >>>>> tzuli...@apache.org> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi Robert, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the > >>>>> title, > >>>>>>>> but > >>>>>>>> -cn in the opening email content. > >>>>>>>> I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for > >>> general > >>>>>>>> Chinese-speaking users). > >>>>>>>> All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English > >>>>> mailing > >>>>>>>> list. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's > >> quite a > >>>>> bit > >>>>>>>> of activity in forms of user questions and replies. > >>>>>>>> It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community > can > >>>>>>>> actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing > lists, > >>>>>>>> so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be > >>>>> indexed > >>>>>>>> and searchable. > >>>>>>>> Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a > >>>>>>>> Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, > >>>>>>>> which in general is a form of contribution that the community > >> always > >>>>>>> merits > >>>>>>>> a lot. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>>>> Gordon > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger < > >> rmetz...@apache.org > >>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hey all, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " > >>>>>>>>> user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink > >>>>>>> community. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Why? > >>>>>>>>> In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came > from > >>> the > >>>>>>>> US, > >>>>>>>>> 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US > >> at > >>>>>>> 20%. > >>>>>>>>> An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group > >> with > >>>>>>> more > >>>>>>>>> than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. > >>>>>>>>> I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in > public > >>>>>>> forums > >>>>>>>>> (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a > huge > >>>>>>> demand > >>>>>>>>> in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide > >>> these > >>>>>>>> users > >>>>>>>>> the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to > >>> follow > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> Apache way. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Is it possible? > >>>>>>>>> I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are > >>> running > >>>>>>>>> non-English user@ mailing lists. > >>>>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have > >>>>>>> non-English > >>>>>>>>> lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ > >>>>>>>>> One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that > all > >>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>> decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to > happen > >>> in > >>>>>>>>> English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation > >>> and > >>>>>>> our > >>>>>>>>> community. > >>>>>>>>> We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing > lists. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> How? > >>>>>>>>> If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request > >> the > >>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>>> mailing list next Monday. > >>>>>>>>> In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the > >>>>>>>>> discussions have stopped. > >>>>>>>>> Then, we should put the new list on our website and start > >> promoting > >>> it > >>>>>>>> (in > >>>>>>>>> said DingTalk group and on social media). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think about this idea :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Best, > >>>>>>>>> Robert > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: > >>>>>>>>> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>> Best, > >>>> Kurt > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Best Regards > >> > >> Jeff Zhang > >> >
