+1, a good idea
thanks On 01/25/2019 09:26，Hequn Cheng<chenghe...@gmail.com> wrote： +1 This would be very helpful! On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 8:15 AM Guowei Ma <guowei....@gmail.com> wrote: +1 This not only helps Chinese users but also helps the community to collect more feedback and scenarios. 在 2019年1月25日，上午2:29，Zhang, Xuefu <xuef...@alibaba-inc.com> 写道： +1 on the idea. This will certainly help promote Flink in China industries. On a side note, it would be great if anyone in the list can help source ideas, bug reports, and feature requests to dev@ list and/or JIRAs so as to gain broader attention. Thanks, Xuefu ------------------------------------------------------------------ From:Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> Sent At:2019 Jan. 24 (Thu.) 05:32 To:dev <dev@flink.apache.org> Subject:Re: [DISCUSS] Start a user...@flink.apache.org mailing list for the Chinese-speaking community? Thanks Robert! I think this is a very good idea. +1 Fabian Am Do., 24. Jan. 2019 um 14:09 Uhr schrieb Jeff Zhang <zjf...@gmail.com : +1 Piotr Nowojski <pi...@da-platform.com> 于2019年1月24日周四 下午8:38写道： +1, good idea, especially with that many Chinese speaking contributors, committers & users :) Piotrek On 24 Jan 2019, at 13:20, Kurt Young <ykt...@gmail.com> wrote: Big +1 on this, it will indeed help Chinese speaking users a lot. fudian.fd <fudian...@alibaba-inc.com>于2019年1月24日 周四20:18写道： +1. I noticed that many folks from China are requesting the JIRA permission in the past year. It reflects that more and more developers from China are using Flink. A Chinese oriented mailing list will definitely be helpful for the growth of Flink in China. 在 2019年1月24日，下午7:42，Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> 写道： +1, a very nice idea On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:41 PM Robert Metzger < rmetz...@apache.org wrote: Thanks for your response. You are right, I'm proposing "user...@flink.apache.org" as the mailing list's name! On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:37 PM Tzu-Li (Gordon) Tai < tzuli...@apache.org> wrote: Hi Robert, Thanks a lot for starting this discussion! +1 to a user-zh@flink.a.o mailing list (you mentioned -zh in the title, but -cn in the opening email content. I think -zh would be better as we are establishing the tool for general Chinese-speaking users). All dev@ discussions / JIRAs should still be in a single English mailing list. From what I've seen in the DingTalk Flink user group, there's quite a bit of activity in forms of user questions and replies. It would really be great if the Chinese-speaking user community can actually have these discussions happen in the Apache mailing lists, so that questions / discussions / replies from developers can be indexed and searchable. Moreover, it'll give the community more insight in how active a Chinese-speaking contributor is helping with user requests, which in general is a form of contribution that the community always merits a lot. Cheers, Gordon On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:15 PM Robert Metzger < rmetz...@apache.org wrote: Hey all, I would like to create a new user support mailing list called " user...@flink.apache.org" to cater the Chinese-speaking Flink community. Why? In the last year 24% of the traffic on flink.apache.org came from the US, 22% from China. In the last three months, China is at 30%, the US at 20%. An additional data point is that there's a Flink DingTalk group with more than 5000 members, asking Flink questions. I believe that knowledge about Flink should be available in public forums (our mailing list), indexable by search engines. If there's a huge demand in a Chinese language support, we as a community should provide these users the tools they need, to grow our community and to allow them to follow the Apache way. Is it possible? I believe it is, because a number of other Apache projects are running non-English user@ mailing lists. Apache OpenOffice, Cocoon, OpenMeetings, CloudStack all have non-English lists: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ One thing I want to make very clear in this discussion is that all project decisions, developer discussions, JIRA tickets etc. need to happen in English, as this is the primary language of the Apache Foundation and our community. We should also clarify this on the page listing the mailing lists. How? If there is consensus in this discussion thread, I would request the new mailing list next Monday. In case of discussions, I will start a vote on Monday or when the discussions have stopped. Then, we should put the new list on our website and start promoting it (in said DingTalk group and on social media). Let me know what you think about this idea :) Best, Robert PS: In case you are wondering what ZH stands for: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ZH -- Best, Kurt -- Best Regards Jeff Zhang
