I am fine with a separate repository, was just raising the other option as
a question.

+1 to go ahead

On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:49 AM Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com>
wrote:

> Hi Xuefu,
>
> thanks for having a look at this. I am sure this playground setup will need
> to be maintained and will go through revisions, too. So, we would still
> need to keep the content of the archive in some repository + the additional
> piece of automation to update the archive, when the documentation is build.
> To me this seems to be more overhead than a repository.
>
> Best,
>
> Konstantin
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:00 PM Xuefu Z <usxu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The idea seems interesting, but I'm wondering if we have considered
> > publishing .tz file hosted somewhere in Flink site with a link in the
> doc.
> > This might avoid the "overkill" of introducing a repo, which is main used
> > for version control in development cycles. On the other hand, a docker
> > setup, once published, will seldom (if ever) go thru revisions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Xuefu
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:58 AM Konstantin Knauf <
> konstan...@ververica.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stephan,
> > >
> > > putting it under "flink-quickstarts" alone would not help. The user
> would
> > > still need to check out the whole `apache/flink` repository, which is a
> > bit
> > > overwhelming. The Java/Scala quickstarts use Maven archetypes. Is this
> > what
> > > you are suggesting? I think, this would be an option, but it seems
> > strange
> > > to manage a pure Docker setup (eventually maybe only one file) in a
> Maven
> > > project.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Konstantin
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:52 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all!
> > > >
> > > > I am fine with a separate repository.
> > > >
> > > > Quick question. though: Have you considered putting the setup not
> under
> > > > "docs" but under "flink-quickstart" or so?
> > > > Would that be equally cumbersome for users?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Stephan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:19 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think Quickstart should be as lightweight as possible and follow
> > > common
> > > > > practices.
> > > > > A Git repository for a few configuration files might feel like
> > > overkill,
> > > > > but IMO it makes sense because this ensures users can get started
> > with
> > > 3
> > > > > commands:
> > > > >
> > > > > $ git clone .../flink-playground
> > > > > $ cd flink-playground
> > > > > $ docker-compose up -d
> > > > >
> > > > > So +1 to create a repository.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Fabian
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Do., 11. Juli 2019 um 12:07 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger <
> > > > > rmetz...@apache.org>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 to create a repo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:10 AM Konstantin Knauf <
> > > > > > konstan...@ververica.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in the course of implementing FLIP-42 we are currently
> reworking
> > > the
> > > > > > > Getting Started section of our documentation. As part of this,
> we
> > > are
> > > > > > > adding docker-compose-based playgrounds to get started with
> Flink
> > > > > > > operations and Flink SQL quickly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To reduce as much friction as possible for new users, we would
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > > > > maintain the required configuration files (docker-comose.yaml,
> > > > > > > flink-conf.yaml) in a separate new repository,
> > > > > > `apache/flink-playgrounds`.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can find more details and a brief discussion on this in the
> > > > > > > corresponding Jira ticket [2].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am not sure, what kind of approval is required for such a
> > change.
> > > > So,
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > suggestion would be that we have lazy majority within the next
> 24
> > > > hours
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > create the repository, we proceed. Please let me know, if this
> > > > > requires a
> > > > > > > more formal approval.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best and thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Konstantin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-42%3A+Rework+Flink+Documentation
> > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12749
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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