Hi everyone, thanks everyone for you remarks and questions! We have three +1s, so I think, we can proceed with this.
@Robert: Could you create the request to the INFRA? Thanks, Konstantin On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 10:16 AM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> wrote: > I am fine with a separate repository, was just raising the other option as > a question. > > +1 to go ahead > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 9:49 AM Konstantin Knauf <konstan...@ververica.com > > > wrote: > > > Hi Xuefu, > > > > thanks for having a look at this. I am sure this playground setup will > need > > to be maintained and will go through revisions, too. So, we would still > > need to keep the content of the archive in some repository + the > additional > > piece of automation to update the archive, when the documentation is > build. > > To me this seems to be more overhead than a repository. > > > > Best, > > > > Konstantin > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:00 PM Xuefu Z <usxu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The idea seems interesting, but I'm wondering if we have considered > > > publishing .tz file hosted somewhere in Flink site with a link in the > > doc. > > > This might avoid the "overkill" of introducing a repo, which is main > used > > > for version control in development cycles. On the other hand, a docker > > > setup, once published, will seldom (if ever) go thru revisions. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Xuefu > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:58 AM Konstantin Knauf < > > konstan...@ververica.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Stephan, > > > > > > > > putting it under "flink-quickstarts" alone would not help. The user > > would > > > > still need to check out the whole `apache/flink` repository, which > is a > > > bit > > > > overwhelming. The Java/Scala quickstarts use Maven archetypes. Is > this > > > what > > > > you are suggesting? I think, this would be an option, but it seems > > > strange > > > > to manage a pure Docker setup (eventually maybe only one file) in a > > Maven > > > > project. > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > Konstantin > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:52 PM Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all! > > > > > > > > > > I am fine with a separate repository. > > > > > > > > > > Quick question. though: Have you considered putting the setup not > > under > > > > > "docs" but under "flink-quickstart" or so? > > > > > Would that be equally cumbersome for users? > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 12:19 PM Fabian Hueske <fhue...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I think Quickstart should be as lightweight as possible and > follow > > > > common > > > > > > practices. > > > > > > A Git repository for a few configuration files might feel like > > > > overkill, > > > > > > but IMO it makes sense because this ensures users can get started > > > with > > > > 3 > > > > > > commands: > > > > > > > > > > > > $ git clone .../flink-playground > > > > > > $ cd flink-playground > > > > > > $ docker-compose up -d > > > > > > > > > > > > So +1 to create a repository. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Fabian > > > > > > > > > > > > Am Do., 11. Juli 2019 um 12:07 Uhr schrieb Robert Metzger < > > > > > > rmetz...@apache.org>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 to create a repo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 11:10 AM Konstantin Knauf < > > > > > > > konstan...@ververica.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the course of implementing FLIP-42 we are currently > > reworking > > > > the > > > > > > > > Getting Started section of our documentation. As part of > this, > > we > > > > are > > > > > > > > adding docker-compose-based playgrounds to get started with > > Flink > > > > > > > > operations and Flink SQL quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To reduce as much friction as possible for new users, we > would > > > like > > > > > to > > > > > > > > maintain the required configuration files > (docker-comose.yaml, > > > > > > > > flink-conf.yaml) in a separate new repository, > > > > > > > `apache/flink-playgrounds`. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can find more details and a brief discussion on this in > the > > > > > > > > corresponding Jira ticket [2]. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure, what kind of approval is required for such a > > > change. > > > > > So, > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > suggestion would be that we have lazy majority within the > next > > 24 > > > > > hours > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > create the repository, we proceed. Please let me know, if > this > > > > > > requires a > > > > > > > > more formal approval. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best and thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konstantin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-42%3A+Rework+Flink+Documentation > > > > > > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-12749 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +49 160 91394525 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Planned Absences: 10.08.2019 - 31.08.2019, 05.09. - > 06.09.2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ververica GmbH > > > > > > > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B > > > > > > > > Managing Directors: Dr. Kostas Tzoumas, Dr. Stephan Ewen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect > > > > > > > > +49 160 91394525 > > > > > > > > > > > > Planned Absences: 10.08.2019 - 31.08.2019, 05.09. - 06.09.2010 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Ververica GmbH > > > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B > > > > Managing Directors: Dr. Kostas Tzoumas, Dr. Stephan Ewen > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Xuefu Zhang > > > > > > "In Honey We Trust!" > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect > > > > +49 160 91394525 > > > > > > Planned Absences: 10.08.2019 - 31.08.2019, 05.09. - 06.09.2010 > > > > > > -- > > > > Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany > > > > -- > > > > Ververica GmbH > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B > > Managing Directors: Dr. Kostas Tzoumas, Dr. Stephan Ewen > > > -- Konstantin Knauf | Solutions Architect +49 160 91394525 Planned Absences: 10.08.2019 - 31.08.2019, 05.09. - 06.09.2010 -- Ververica GmbH | Invalidenstrasse 115, 10115 Berlin, Germany -- Ververica GmbH Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg: HRB 158244 B Managing Directors: Dr. Kostas Tzoumas, Dr. Stephan Ewen
