Taking in this fix would require us to cancel RC2 and create another
release candidate. We are already long-overdue on the Flink 1.16 release.
Given that 1.15.3 is not yet released, it can't be a regression compared to
the current situation of 1.15.2. The Flink Delta connector is not part of
the ASF Flink community so it can't be considered a blocker from a ASF
Flink community perspective.

I do understand the pain. I'm curious what others think if this is worthy
of cancelling the release candidate.

Thanks, Martijn

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 4:54 PM Krzysztof Chmielewski <
krzysiek.chmielew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for response,
> however i think you may miss a bigger context regarding those 3 tickets.
>
> Those 3 tickets [29509, 29512, 29627] are part of a bigger thing. They are
> fixing 1.15 Sink V2 issue, where Task manager will not start after recovery
> for Sink topology with Global Committer. The problem was described by me in
> this thread [1]. We need all three to fix the problem.
>
> All three tickets were merged into 1.15 release branch and will be included
> in 1.15.3 probably, however 1.16 will be missing one fix (29627).
> In other words, there will be a regression between 1.16 and 1.15.3.
>
> Additionally for now this issue is blocking Flink migration for Delta
> connector [2].
> We need to migrate because Flink 1.14 has another Sink problem with data
> loss during Sink Recovery with Global Committer [3] and this one most
> likely will not be fixed since 1.14 support is ending.
>
> Forgive my if I'm wrong but what do you mean by " we won't block 1.16.0 on
> this." Fix is merged so couldn't we just cherry pick 1.16 merge commit to
> 1.16.0's RC2?
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/otscy199g1l9t3llvo8s2slntyn2r1jc
> [2] https://github.com/delta-io/connectors/tree/master/flink
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29589
>
> Regards,
> Krzysztof Chmielewski
>
> czw., 20 paź 2022 o 16:13 Xingbo Huang <h...@apache.org> napisał(a):
>
> > Hi Krzysztof,
> >
> > When I was building rc2, I tried to search whether issues with `fix
> > version` of 1.16.0 have not been closed.
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29627 was missed because the
> > `fix version` was not marked. I agree with Martijn and Xintong that we
> > won't block 1.16.0 on this.
> >
> > Best,
> > Xingbo
> >
> > Xintong Song <tonysong...@gmail.com> 于2022年10月20日周四 18:23写道:
> >
> > > Hi Krzysztof,
> > >
> > > FLINK-29627 is merged after rc2 being created, that's why it doesn't
> > appear
> > > in the change list. See the commit history of rc2 [1].
> > >
> > > It's unfortunate this fix didn't make the 1.16.0 release (if rc2 is
> > > approved). However, I agree with Martijn that we should not further
> block
> > > 1.16.0 on this. If there's no other blockers discovered in the rc2, the
> > fix
> > > of FLINK-29627 will be shipped in 1.16.1.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Xintong
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/flink/commits/release-1.16.0-rc2
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 6:16 PM Krzysztof Chmielewski <
> > > krzysiek.chmielew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks  Martijn,
> > > > just to clarify from my end,
> > > >
> > > > All three tickets,  [1] [2] [3] are fixed and merged to 1.16 branch
> > > > already. I just noticed that one of them [3] is not on included in
> the
> > > > change list. Hence my email.
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29509
> > > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29512
> > > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29627
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Krzysztof Chmielewski
> > > >
> > > > czw., 20 paź 2022 o 11:51 Martijn Visser <martijnvis...@apache.org>
> > > > napisał(a):
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Krzysztof,
> > > > >
> > > > > Given that this issue already exists in previous Flink versions, I
> > > don't
> > > > > think it's a blocker for 1.16. We should get it fixed (all of the
> > > > tickets)
> > > > > so it will be addressed in a new Flink 1.15 version, in Flink
> 1.16.1
> > > and
> > > > of
> > > > > course Flink 1.17.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martijn
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 11:47 AM Krzysztof Chmielewski <
> > > > > krzysiek.chmielew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I would like to ask about [1] ticket with PR [2]. It was merged
> to
> > > 1.16
> > > > > > release branch today but I do not see it on the change list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is closely related to [3] and [4] that are on the change list.
> > > > However
> > > > > > to fully fix Sink architecture issue we need all 3 tickets [1],
> [3]
> > > and
> > > > > [4]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29627
> > > > > > [2] https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/21115
> > > > > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29509
> > > > > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-29512
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Krzysztof Chmielewski
> > > > > >
> > > > > > czw., 20 paź 2022 o 11:21 Xingbo Huang <h...@apache.org>
> > napisał(a):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please review and vote on the release candidate #2 for the
> > version
> > > > > > 1.16.0,
> > > > > > > as follows:
> > > > > > > [ ] +1, Approve the release
> > > > > > > [ ] -1, Do not approve the release (please provide specific
> > > comments)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The complete staging area is available for your review, which
> > > > includes:
> > > > > > > * JIRA release notes [1],
> > > > > > > * the official Apache source release and binary convenience
> > > releases
> > > > to
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > deployed to dist.apache.org [2], which are signed with the key
> > > with
> > > > > > > fingerprint 3C2C9FFB59DF9F3E [3],
> > > > > > > * all artifacts to be deployed to the Maven Central Repository
> > [4],
> > > > > > > * source code tag "release-1.16.0-rc2" [5],
> > > > > > > * website pull request listing the new release and adding
> > > > announcement
> > > > > > blog
> > > > > > > post [6].
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. It is adopted by
> > > > majority
> > > > > > > approval, with at least 3 PMC affirmative votes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Chesnay, Martijn, Godfrey & Xingbo
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12315522&version=12351275
> > > > > > > [2]
> > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/flink/flink-1.16.0-rc2
> > > > > > > [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/flink/KEYS
> > > > > > > [4]
> > > > > >
> > > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapacheflink-1541
> > > > > > > [5] https://github.com/apache/flink/tree/release-1.16.0-rc2
> > > > > > > [6] https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/574
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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