-0 for a redesign. I might be the only one but I like the current
simple design. I find it quite elegant. Apache projects do not tend to
have fancy websites. That's ok. If you consider the AWS pages, they
are far from being modern or beautiful.

A redesign often is appealing but it can take a huge amount of time to
get it right. This can mean the project is unable to focus on the main
target of delivering great software and documentation.

Some concerns:
1. Content regressions (content not being displayed properly, content
and graphics not fitting anymore, code formatting breaking)
2. Higher entry barrier for committing (tooling / formatting becomes
complicated)
3. Lack of focus on the content which needs work too (e.g. outdated
information, lack of documentation of features)

That said, I would support a redesign if we prevent regressions and
build on standard tooling and best practices. I'm just not convinced
(yet) that the pros outweigh the cons.

-Max

On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 9:57 AM Danny Cranmer <dannycran...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Deepthi,
>
> +1 for a redesign.
>
> I like the idea of setting up a committee/team that can produce some mock
> ups and create a FLIP where the community can elect the best look and feel.
> I very much look forward to seeing the results!
>
> Thanks,
> Danny
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 8:37 AM Jing Ge <j...@ververica.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Hi Deepthi,
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. Zeplin I mentioned is a UX/UI design software[1],
> > it is not Zeppelin.
> >
> > It is great to hear that Amazon UX/UI designers would contribute. There was
> > a lack of front-end engineers in the past. Hopefully we could find enough
> > front-end contributors for this big project.
> >
> > +1 looking forward to your proposal.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Jing
> >
> > [1] https://zeplin.io/
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 8:59 AM Shuo Cheng <njucs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey!
> > >
> > > +1 for the proposal, the first page of Flink is more like a tutorial
> > > document for developers compared to the other top apache projects.
> > Looking
> > > forward to a more attractive Flink website.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Shuo
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 8:13 AM Mohan, Deepthi
> > <mdee...@amazon.com.invalid
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I am a product manager for Kinesis Data Analytics, AWS’s managed
> > service
> > > > for Apache Flink. I’m creating this thread to gauge community interest
> > in
> > > > redesigning the Flink website: https://flink.apache.org/.
> > > > A few of our customers have provided feedback that the Apache Flink
> > > > website looks dated. One customer claimed that the website looks
> > > > “unwelcoming” and lacks useful graphics and colors. Another said it
> > looks
> > > > “like a wiki page thrown together by developers.” Customers also point
> > > out
> > > > other related Apache project websites: https://spark.apache.org/ and
> > > > https://kafka.apache.org/ as having “modern” user design. Many were
> > > > surprised to hear that Flink has been a top-5 Apache project for
> > several
> > > > years now.
> > > > As https://flink.apache.org/ is likely the first page someone new to
> > > > Flink encounters, it will be helpful to modernize the look and feel of
> > > the
> > > > website. Given the growing interest in Flink, we have an opportunity to
> > > > make content and features visible and easily accessible to customers.
> > I’d
> > > > like to learn if this is an idea we should pursue. I can create a FLIP
> > if
> > > > there is interest.
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Deepthi Mohan
> > > >
> > >
> >

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