I'm happy that someone is picky around here, so no problem and thanks
for your feedback!

Meanwhile, the vote thread has started on gene...@incubator.apache.org.

-- 
Thanks,
 Daniel Dekany

Wednesday, January 20, 2016, 8:58:19 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote:

> Another remark for the future: all other non-binding votes from committers
> are usually quite appreciated by the IPMC to validate the process. Also the
> Release Manager (in this release Daniel) could also vote.
>
> Step by step, guys, you're doing a good job. Sorry if sometimes I could be
> a bit picky, but I'm just trying to help you learning the processes.
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Daniel Dekany <ddek...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>
>> The vote passes with 3, +1 binding votes, and one -1 binding votes
>> from the PPMC members:
>>
>> David E Jones +1 (binding)
>> Jacopo Cappellato +1 (binding)
>> Ralph Goers +1 (binding)
>> Sergio Fernández -1 (binding)
>>
>> As of the -1, see the discussion quoted below, and note that Sergio
>> Fernández has informally agreed to continue on general@incubator.a.o.
>>
>> Thanks for voting, we will proceed with voting on
>> general@incubator.a.o!
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>  Daniel Dekany
>>
>>
>> Tuesday, January 19, 2016, 8:41:44 PM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Jan 19, 2016 20:05, "Daniel Dekany" <ddek...@freemail.hu> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You mean, it should have been version 2.3.24-rc01-a3 (in Maven and
>> >> everywhere), or just the non-Maven download URL-s should use separate
>> >> URL-s?
>> >
>> > No, only for the source release, which is what we actually vote in ASF.
>> > Just naming the source folder with such convention would prevent the
>> > confusion we had. For next releases, please take that into account as
>> well
>> > as the importance of canceling vote threads properly.
>> >
>> >> Anyway, I won't make a problem out of formalities like this, so
>> >> whatever the ASF conventions says. For now though, can we just proceed
>> >> on incubator@general? Yes, formally we could (Majority Approval), but
>> >> given that you seem to spot policy issues efficiently, I'm curious if
>> >> you have checked the content of the artifacts. Or if you plan to do
>> >> that, because then I would wait for that.
>> >
>> > Yes, go ahead there, please. I didn't find time to check this last
>> attempt,
>> > but I'll do it while the vote runs at general@incubator.a.o
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >> Tuesday, January 19, 2016, 8:38:52 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Daniel,
>> >> >
>> >> > my issue with such workflow is that behind the assertion that "All the
>> >> > links remain as they were" there is a potential mismatch between the
>> > latest
>> >> > release and the downloaded one, as Jacopo pointed with the hashes.
>> >> >
>> >> >  Specific release source must be linked in the vote email.  Normally
>> ASF
>> >> > projects use RC workflows for such internal links, having a way to
>> >> > differentiate between each try. As we discussed, Freemarker will
>> publish
>> >> > those RCs. Therefore my recommendation would be to specifically name
>> > each
>> >> > release with the attempt number to avoid such issue. Would that work
>> for
>> >> > you?
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course I could vote the current release; but I'm just trying to
>> show
>> > the
>> >> > project the procedures you should follow. Hope you understand my
>> point.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:53 PM, Daniel Dekany <ddek...@freemail.hu>
>> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> It's iteration over the same public release (2.3.24-rc01), before
>> >> >> sending it to voting on general@incubator. There are no downloads
>> for
>> >> >> the attempts except for the last. ("All the links remain as they
>> >> >> were.", as the mail said.) But of course, I will include the links
>> >> >> directly in later votes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have you check the content of the artifacts or do you plan to do
>> that?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The source artifacts are here ("normal" and GAE, the two branches):
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/freemarker/engine/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/source/
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Monday, January 18, 2016, 10:23:06 AM, Sergio Fernández wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > -1 (binding), source link is missing from the vote email
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Something confusing on the overall release is that normally RC
>> >> >> > releases are what here are called attepts, because the project
>> >> >> > actually wants to publish RCs; so I guess the attempt number should
>> >> >> > be kept somewhere, folder name or wherever.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Jacopo Cappellato
>> >> >> > <jacopo.cappell...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Yes, you are right; I was confused because I have actually tested
>> > them
>> >> >> when
>> >> >> > I have voted +1 to the previous attempt (you have announced the new
>> > vote
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> > the same time I have casted mine).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Here is my vote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > +1
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Jacopo
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Daniel Dekany <
>> ddek...@freemail.hu>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Those also look fine to me. The artifacts has the new NOTICE
>> files,
>> >> >> >> and the the sha1 and md5 checksums are correct.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >>  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Saturday, January 16, 2016, 4:34:54 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > I was talking about the files here:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/staging/org/freemarker/freemarker/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jacopo
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Daniel Dekany <
>> ddek...@freemail.hu>>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Friday, January 15, 2016, 9:46:31 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Hi Daniel,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> the release files and the hashes/signatures seem to be the same
>> > of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> previous attempt. Maybe I am missing something but I was
>> > expecting a
>> >> >> new
>> >> >> >> >> version of them so that we could test the integrity of the
>> > bundles.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Which one? They seem to me up to date
>> >> >> >> > (
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/freemarker/engine/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/binaries/apache-freemarker-2.3.24-rc01-incubating-bin.tar.gz.md5
>> >> >> >> ,
>> >> >> >> > etc.)
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > OTOH I see something funny with the sha512 files. If I check
>> them
>> > out
>> >> >> >> > with SVN, they are fine. But if I download them from the web
>> URL,
>> > they
>> >> >> >> > come down gzip-ed... But I assume this glitch has nothing to do
>> > with
>> >> >> >> > the release files.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Jacopo
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Daniel Dekany <
>> ddek...@freemail.hu>>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> I did an update. No functionality/stability changes, only
>> legal
>> > ones
>> >> >> >> >>> and some build script change:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> - NOTICE file changes:
>> >> >> >> >>>   - Added missing META-INF/NOTICE to the Maven javadoc
>> artifact
>> >> >> >> >>>   - More precise and readable font-related section in the
>> binary
>> >> >> >> >>>     distribution
>> >> >> >> >>>   - Customized META-INF/NOTICE in freemkarker.jar, to fit this
>> >> >> >> >>>     particular artifact.
>> >> >> >> >>> - `ant maven-dist` now selects the appropriate target Maven
>> repo
>> >> >> >> >>>   (snapshot VS staging) based on the version number.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> All the links remain as there were. Except, the Git commit
>> > hashes
>> >> >> >> >>> change to this:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Normal version:
>> >> >> >> >>>   "2.3" branch commit hash:
>> > b9ca91dd5c3b04121f5ddcb9f6194c1e7931ba2c
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-freemarker.git;a=commit;h=b9ca91dd5c3b04121f5ddcb9f6194c1e7931ba2c
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Google App Engine ("gae") compliant version:
>> >> >> >> >>>    "2.3-gae" branch  commit hash:
>> >> >> >> 0c71d8f99323577d9683d924c51d617eb0346d15
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-freemarker.git;a=commit;h=0c71d8f99323577d9683d924c51d617eb0346d15
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Please review and vote!
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >>>  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Thursday, January 7, 2016, 10:29:32 PM, Daniel Dekany wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> > Dear Mentors, and everyone else!
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Here's the 2nd attempt on 2.3.24-rc01-incubating. Nothing
>> has
>> >> >> changed
>> >> >> >> >>> > that affects FreeMarker's functionality/stability. These are
>> >> >> merely
>> >> >> >> >>> > fixes related to licensing files and Apache packaging
>> > conventions.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > As previously, if you can, please test the release with your
>> > own
>> >> >> >> >>> > FreeMarker-dependent projects, and in general try to find
>> > rough
>> >> >> >> edges,
>> >> >> >> >>> > tell your insights. The binary with full documentation and
>> > change
>> >> >> >> log:
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/freemarker/engine/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/binaries/apache-freemarker-2.3.24-rc01-incubating-bin.tar.gz
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Git:
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   Normal version:
>> >> >> >> >>> >   "2.3" branch commit hash:
>> >> >> ce1dc19b3ccfb734af551c2d694a3a3d1039f7fa
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-freemarker.git;a=commit;h=ce1dc19b3ccfb734af551c2d694a3a3d1039f7fa
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   Googla App Engine ("gae") compliant version:
>> >> >> >> >>> >   "2.3-gae" branch  commit hash:
>> >> >> >> >>> > 6166efe1d02fe89a98c7d87ab26a608e2d560492
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-freemarker.git;a=commit;h=6166efe1d02fe89a98c7d87ab26a608e2d560492
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   (Tagging will happen if and when it indeed becomes to a
>> >> >> release.)
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Maven (jar, javadoc and source artifacts):
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   Repository:
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/staging/
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   Browse (Mentors please check contents):
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/staging/org/freemarker/freemarker/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >
>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/staging/org/freemarker/freemarker-gae/2.3.24-rc01-incubating/
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >   Maven coordiantes:
>> >> >> >> >>> >     <groupId>org.freemarker</groupId>
>> >> >> >> >>> >     <artifactId>freemarker</artifactId>
>> >> >> >> >>> >     <version>2.3.24-rc01-incubating</version>
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >     or the same with
>> <artifactId>freemarker-gae</artifactId>.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > The staged dist directory structure:
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/freemarker/
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > Notes:
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > - See the README for the build instructions.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > - You can run `ant rat`. If you extract the two
>> distributions
>> > (I
>> >> >> mean
>> >> >> >> >>> >   the binary and source archives) under build/dist/bin and
>> >> >> >> >>> >   build/dist/src, it will also check those. (Or if you ran
>> > `ant
>> >> >> dist`
>> >> >> >> >>> >   earlier.)
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > The vote is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number
>> > of
>> >> >> >> >>> > binding votes (3 +1) is reached.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >     [ ] +1 Release this package
>> >> >> >> >>> >     [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with
>> > the
>> >> >> >> release
>> >> >> >> >>> >     [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > If this vote passes, we will start a 2nd vote at
>> >> >> general@incubator.
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> > --
>> >> >> >> >>> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >>> >  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >>> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >>>  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >  Daniel Dekany
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>  Daniel Dekany
>> >>
>>
>>
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