This is a big issue at the moment for the java ecosystem. The industry
spends a lot of time trying to get specifications out and users/industry to
adopt them regardless of the application server of implementation. But the
more we move forward the less implementations we have.

MicroProfile, Jakarta, all the same. Most of the vendors now use the same
implementation. At Apache we still have some alternatives for JPA, CDI and
a couple more and I think it's good overall for the ecosystem. But for how
long will it continue?

Le mer. 23 nov. 2022 à 11:20, Mark Struberg via dev <dev@geronimo.apache.org>
a écrit :

> That's right. The MicroProfile stuff is not much used these days anymore.
> Which is actually sad, because it was a good initiative.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> Am 23.11.2022 um 11:11 schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>
> In terms of storage and committers you are right but in terms of users a
> key difference is "will it be a new release".
> If you look at MP it is quite unlikely since project seems way less
> consummed than it was some years ago and since TomEE moves to smallrye at
> the same time we don't update it anymore, not sure we would do any new
> release.
> So while it is ok to keep it there, we should also communicate clearly we
> don't intend to do any new release if it is the case - same story than
> geronimo server basically.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>
> Le mer. 23 nov. 2022 à 11:00, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Yeah I understand there isn't much activity, but from time to time, they
>> are updated to follow specifications and they are used by other projects
>> (transaction manager, batchEE, etc). So they need a home. Of course we can
>> split them apart and give them to different projects, but it does not solve
>> any problem. The people are the same. As soon as we allow all projects to
>> contribute or even become committers here, I don't see any issue at the
>> moment at least.
>>
>> Le mer. 23 nov. 2022 à 10:53, Mark Struberg via dev <
>> dev@geronimo.apache.org> a écrit :
>>
>>> *Overall I don't understand the recent discussions to kill all Geronimo
>>> projects and subprojects.*
>>>
>>> *+1*
>>>
>>> Actually I'd rather keep it here as it is used outside TomEE as well.
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 23.11.2022 um 10:15 schrieb Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeano...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> I've opened a thread on the TomEE side to maybe transition BatchEE to
>>> TomEE.
>>>
>>> *Overall I don't understand the recent discussions to kill all Geronimo
>>> projects and subprojects.*
>>>
>>> Le mar. 22 nov. 2022 à 23:33, Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> No requirement, just making it living (updating versions and spec impl).
>>>>
>>>> Le mar. 22 nov. 2022 à 23:31, Mark Struberg via dev <
>>>> dev@geronimo.apache.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I still use batchee very much. So I'd keep it well alive. Also
>>>>> investing time on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything which is required to do?
>>>>>
>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>> strub
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 18.11.2022 um 09:50 schrieb Francois Papon <
>>>>> francois.pa...@openobject.fr>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have insights about how BatchEE is used today and how the
>>>>> jbatch specification is support by others.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for freeze.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> François
>>>>> On 18/11/2022 08:21, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> We discussed some time ago to drop batchee as an active subproject,
>>>>> wonder where we are now on this?
>>>>> Do we freeze it and document we don't maintain it anymore?
>>>>>
>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
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>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Louis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Louis
>>
>
>

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Jean-Louis

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