Hi Jörg,

Jörg Wartenberg wrote:
Hi Leonard,

A selection color is already provided by the window manger theme (at least on Windows). A per object selection color makes not much sense to me, because you must know the selection color of an object to recognize it as selected.

I did not mean a different color for every object. I used probably the wrong eords. Just allow the user to easily select the selection color. Have a color selection list displayed, so that every user can change this color on the fly and also the style of the border.

I.
After thinking more thoroughly, I am convinced that there is NO universal method that will work every time. So, I would recommend to offer the end-user 3-4 alternatives. Every user will select whatever is most intuitive for him AND most useful for a particular situation.

1. BORDERS: (various colours and styles -> users should be able to set them): - ADVANTAGE: are easy to implement => should be just setting or changing the existing borders property for every object (of course NOT the original border, in the document, just for displaying) - DISADVANTAGE: if the border area is relevant for the next operation (the user does NOT select a number of objects just for fun, he may want to do something with them), then this will hinder any future action
1.1 SPECIALIZATION of BORDERS:
 - see the 3D effect I created (in my previous post)
 - DO NOT draw a complete border, BUT ONLY 40-70% of the border
 - ADV: better visualisation of border area, relatively easy to implement
- DIS: it may be difficult to recognize some objects as beeing selected or not (see my example - NOT easy to see, BUT for non-overlapping objects should work fine)

2. FILL: change fill colour; there are various flavours, eg.
 - restrict fill colour to objects vs extend fill beyond objects
 - overlay (transparent) vs overpainting
 - DIS:
-- problem with overlapping objects for some selection types (see your examples, though NOT if only the selected object/ ONLY the visible part of the selected object is filled) => have ability to show/hide non-visible part of the object (because it is non-visible, it is overlapped by a different object, which could be UN-selected) -- IF the user needs a detailed view of the objects for his next move, some of the fills will be very harassing

3. SELECTION ARROWS: my preferred method
 - DIS: more difficult to implement
3.1 SPECIALISATION:
- allow users to change position of CENTER => adjust arrows automatically => very good visualisation of selected objects

4. SELECTION MASK (ala Photoshop)
- in PS you can click the selection mask, then all selected objects get filled - IF you now disable the RGB channels (all 3), the selection is white AND the non-selection is black (or opposite, I don't remember it anymore)
 - useful for some more complex configurations
 - DIS: still fails for overlapping objects

II.
Regarding the original specification:
1. Chart - Horizontal Grid Lines
Selection of the horizontal grid lines. (How many handles should the grid have? For each line, or only at the corners? On both sides or only on one side?)
The graphic is perfect as it was shown, i.e.: each line, both sides.


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