Christian Lippka - Sun Microsystems Gmbh - Hamburg wrote:
>> [svg embedded into odf]
>>
> I don't think that there currently is an active discussion about this  
> topic. My point of view on
> this is that svg is the format of choice for low level vector graphics.  
> But ODF is an office
> document format. Which is way more high level. If you have an editor  
> that supports all the
> nice feature of svg, including animations media and all, I don't see how  
> we can put a
> user interface around this which reattains all features and allows  
> editing by a typical office
> user.
>
Hi Christian,

admittedly this is a side issue, for the user being able to use svg
cliparts is much more important; but - you are not seriously
refusing proper inline svg support because it confuses users?!

Even if I would buy that (which I don't, the animation subset is
less powerful than SMIL, so it would be supportable; everything else
would just be totally awesome to have, e.g. the filters - and nobody
is asking for complete control of every arcane svg attribute from
the UI - no difference to ODF, or where's the knob that modifies the
number of gradient steps nowadays?) - then let's start with a
reasonable subset, like svg base or svg tiny.

I'll leave argumenting with the political impact of staying with the
weird svg-cherry-picking-and-semantical-redefinition to others, but
it's not nice for sure ...

> I'm not saying that we should not use svg in ODF for cliparts. But  
> currently is there an
> open source svg renderer with a good enough feature set that could be  
> pluged into
> an Office application? Feature wise I only know about the implementation  
> from Mozilla and
> Webkit. Both are not very easy to integrate seamlessly and webkit still  
> has some issues
> with non closed source parts.
>
I'd definitely go with rsvg (see other mail) for the while.

> Since I think we all agree that we need the support of svg cliparts even  
> if we make the
> ODF format more svg like, we should separate this discussion.
>
Agreed. Something for the oasis discuss list, maybe.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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