Hi *, On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 12:47:04AM +0900, tora wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 07:12:21PM +0900, tora wrote: > Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > No, I would suggest to use the Font-Installation wizard to install the > > MS-Corefonts. > > I am afraid, i am not a lawyer, but copying a part of software is > probably a violation of the End User License Agreement of the Windows.
Don't generalize... http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/eula.htm The corefonts allow distribution in unmodified form and you're allowed to install an unlimited amount of copies... > I am not sure, but maybe, no enterprise user copies font files from > the Windows to Linux or Solaris platform. This is not simply "copying from Windows" - but installing the CoreFonts that were once offered by Microsoft and are now distributed on the very same conditions as granted by the EULA via sourceforge. > [...] > With current implementation, both combo boxes in the dialog of > Tools|Options|%PRODUCTNAME|Fonts list the fonts that have been > installed in the computer. So it means that a user can replace > one of the installed fonts with another one of the installed fonts. > That does not make sense, does it? It does. There are "ugly" fonts and "less ugly" fonts... If you often exchange documents with somebody else and you have other preferences of the font than your partner, one can define a replacement. Or if you often get documents that use a certain windows-Font and you don't have one of the other well-known good-quality replacements for it (only some ugly ones), you can define it to another font that looks better although it might not look like the original one. > [...] > > IMHO it is much better if OOo just indicated for what stuff it did a > > fallback (maybe using highlighting with a tooltip showing the actual > > font used) instead of displaying "blocks" instead. > > The problem might be a silent action by which OOo replaces unknown fonts > with programmatically chosen fonts. > > How about adding a dialog that pops up when opening a document that > includes unknown font names, saying "You are about to open a document > that includes uninstalled fonts. %PRODUCTNAME will automatically use > substituted fonts installed in your computer in place of the unknown > fonts to render texts. If you want to tweak the automatic font > substitution, go to the menu Format|xxx|yyy|zzz." followed by > "[ ] This dialog will not be needed any longer." I would prefer a way to highlight the portions of text that are affected instead of getting an annoying Dialog that I have to dismiss... > [...] > The OpenDocument is a neutral file format that supports all platforms. > Why don't we try to make its contents neutral, too? Because it is not a "markup" Format (well, the format is, but not the representation), but more WYSIWYG like... > In other words, within a few years, we would have to move to more > platform-independent world. Don't you think so? That has nothing to do with it IMHO. Even now, when I don't have the font installed that the document uses, I can open it. The problem of choosing a wrong ethnic font can be compensated by having a look at the characters' language attribute or by having a look at the fontnames. No need for an Abstraction that actually hinders/randomizes the WYSIWYG part... > >>> And since you can enter anything in the font-tab (i.e. set a > > Here is another topic that i would like to append. > [TTC] I cannot really say anything about that since I don't know anything about truetype collection fonts... > [...] > With that description, we could append a short note saying either > "This font is installed." or "This font is not installed and will be > replaced with font xxx." This is not really short, is it? ;-> SCNR > > [replacing fonts on export] > > Yes. But I'm still not a fan of it. It will make my document look > > different even when I moved my linux-fonts to the windows-box since the > > export wrote a different font into the file.... I really don't like that > > idea/approach. > > Additionally, please consider the following user scenario: > > 1. Open a Microsoft Office document with OpenOffice.org on Linux or Solaris. > 2. Insert some texts within existing texts. > 3. Append some texts in the empty area. > 4. Save the document into Microsoft Office file format and return it to > the person who asked the user to edit it. > > Step 2 would have no problem. The inserted texts would be given a font > name specified in the original document, i.e. a font in the Windows. > > Step 3 might have a problem. The appended texts would be given a font > name available in his/her computer. Not necessarily. This would only be the case if all the other text would have been hard-formatted, with the style defaulting to another font. And even then, OOo would still write the fontname of that style into the document (i.e. what is defined in the document9, not what is available on the sytem. > >> [...] ciao Christian -- NP: Limp Bizkit - Getcha Groove On --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
